AK or QQ ? Which one do you prefer ?

Well, since AK vs QQ it`s a coin flip I think there are somehow equal in strength, but which one of the two would you rather have if you`d have a choice ?

made hand. I'll take the ladies.

I'll go with Slick, more potential easier to get away from.

it depends on what my opponent is holding

head to head, i would take the QQ

57-43 in favour of QQ before the flop. That's better than a coinflip and that's the hand I'll take.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 79.827% 79.84% 00.23% 445674461 1297829.50 { QQ }
Hand 1: 20.173% 20.00% 00.23% 111653288 1297829.50 { random }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 66.567% 66.20% 00.60% 321945641 2907364.00 { AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 33.433% 32.95% 00.60% 160246271 2907364.00 { random }

Nuff said?

QQ is easier to play than AK

1. QQ wins more preflop all-ins than AK
2. QQ fears A and K so an A or K on the board, you dont go crazy.
3. QQ is a pocket pair and so remains hidden on a lowish board.
4. QQ is only dominated by AA and KK preflop and most often players after you reraise them, so you more often know if you are ahead on the flop.
5. Lots of players play KQ QJ QT hands, so if you hit a set, you can bet and many players actualy have something they can call with.
6. You do not often get 'whats the best way to play QQ' threads.. unlike AK....QQ is just easier to play.
7. 70% of flops are missed.. a PP has value regardless of the flop.


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myself

I think I would have to go w/ the Snuffdippers, altho if an A or K hits the board, it would be hard to get away from. Most times I would bet or raise preflop so that I could make a continuation bet and hopefully get some idea where I stand in the hand.
Take care

I prefer the made hand pocket queens. The queens are beat by the two overcards but AK has to flop a pair or it can be beat by a pair of two's

QQ is obviously better against any normal range. See sindri's equity calculations above. If you change the random hand to any normal range for villain QQ is still the clear favorite.

Would you also argue that AK and 22 are of equal value, because they are a 'coinflip'? No, just because two hands are equal against each other doesn't mean they are equal against a range, which is what we should really be concerned with.

It depends on the situation and the players. If you have players who like to play Ace-rag, AK can stack them, and QQ is more likely to get stacked.

But in general, I'll take the queens.

I like those ladies!!!!

Gotta go with the ladies. They look so purrrr-ty ...

Besides, AK (aka 'Big Slick') is the oil spot you slip on right before busting out. ...

jamesdadeliverer said:

QQ is obviously better against any normal range. See sindri's equity calculations above. If you change the random hand to any normal range for villain QQ is still the clear favorite.

Would you also argue that AK and 22 are of equal value, because they are a 'coinflip'? No, just because two hands are equal against each other doesn't mean they are equal against a range, which is what we should really be concerned with.

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Yeah this speaks volumes.
People that think 22 is better then AK just cause there fliping are "special" imo.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.950% 48.96% 00.99% 445174255 8989382.50 { 22 }
Hand 1: 50.050% 49.06% 00.99% 446080404 8989382.50 { random }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.977% 39.61% 00.37% 204836389 1892569.17 { 22 }
Hand 1: 60.023% 59.66% 00.37% 308494281 1892569.17 { 77+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 66.567% 66.20% 00.60% 321945641 2907364.00 { AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 33.433% 32.95% 00.60% 160246271 2907364.00 { random }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.466% 53.82% 04.64% 213815856 18444803.00 { AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 41.534% 36.89% 04.64% 146549066 18444803.00 { 77+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }

qq havent been having a lot of luck with ak keep getting rivered or just not hitting at all plus its 3rd best pocket pair no doubt rather be holding qq to ak

QQ is stronger so that is the hand I would take. I would even take 22 over AK in a head to head situation.

sky4ever said:

Well, since AK vs QQ it`s a coin flip I think there are somehow equal in strength, but which one of the two would you rather have if you`d have a choice ?

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i just preffer queens cause its not exactly a flip... if you see the % are 53% queens to 47% ak suit...

Thats a hard one.. Because AK is such a awesome hand when the flop is good.. But if i had to choose i would choose .. QQ.. just because u are in better posistion and have a better chance of beating the opponent out ... But thats what i would do..

jamesdadeliverer said:

QQ is obviously better against any normal range. See sindri's equity calculations above. If you change the random hand to any normal range for villain QQ is still the clear favorite.

Would you also argue that AK and 22 are of equal value, because they are a 'coinflip'? No, just because two hands are equal against each other doesn't mean they are equal against a range, which is what we should really be concerned with.

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Well, of course the value against a range I`m concerned with since I didn`t made a thread AK vs 22 because of obvious hand-ranges issues, and I didn`t made it to help me decide which one should I prefer.I go with queens for obvious equity reasons, and for the fact that are very easy to play post-flop.

In my opinion QQ has a huge advantage over AK since even if it`s a coin flip when you go AI preflop, the case is different when you play it normally with a pf raise and get to the post-flop play.AK is only going to flop a pair 30% of the time, which means that 70% QQ will induce a fold, winning 70% of the pots against AK and not only 50%.

I was just curious if you guys think the same and how would you elaborate.

I find it comical that this thread is still being discussed. In it's raw math, QQ will be an approximate 56-43 favorite to win the hand heads up preflop all in. However, the true strength of this hand lies in one's ability to utilize bet sizing, position, and reads to induce folds or calls. Play the man, not the cards. Breaking out from a beginner player to intermediate is understanding that poker is relative, not absolute.

definitely queens. whenever i make a move with ace king, i never seem to hit and i lose a lot of money, also queens are actually the favorite to win the hand so it is not a coin flip

DamianDelPiero said:

I find it comical that this thread is still being discussed. In it's raw math, QQ will be an approximate 56-43 favorite to win the hand heads up preflop all in. However, the true strength of this hand lies in one's ability to utilize bet sizing, position, and reads to induce folds or calls. Play the man, not the cards. Breaking out from a beginner player to intermediate is understanding that poker is relative, not absolute.

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We all know what poker is about.We are discussing hand preferences here, if you find it funny just have a nice laugh, go browse other threads and leave the others share their thoughts.

P.S. "Everything is relative in this world, where change alone endures." — Leon Trotsky

AK def.


edit: For obvious reasons.

Tough choice but as coolnout says below, Made Hand I too choose the ladies (Biatches)

coolnout said:

made hand. I'll take the ladies.

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Infamous 1020 said:

edit: For obvious reasons

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Please enlighten us all what are the obvious reasons.