$6 cash games, Change of strategy?

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for the past month or so I have been spending hours everyday slowly building my bankroll up in $2 and $4 cash games on 888, I've finally got enough bankroll ($120) to play $6 but in the main only 6 max tables are available.
I've noticed straight away that there seem to be more fish that make ridiculous and aggressive plays and so far my bank roll has been really up and down due to the large amount of suck outs which can be expected when players are so aggressive
In $2 cash games I was playing fairly nitty, cbetting 1/2 for bluff and nearer to pot for value as a general rule, Do I need to change my strategy? thanks
 
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i don't think thats enough information for us to give any kind of solid advice. Going from full ring to 6max is really hard IMO. Totally different game, so yeah a change in strategy is necessary, but to suggest what to change, need more info. Are you getting a lot of calls and floats by players in position?
 
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Okay I will try give as much info as possible, I was really just looking for general strategy that other members employ as that was very helpful for when I was playing $2NLHE,
basically atm, i'm playing very loose on the button and cut off and floating a lot in position because villain tends to shut down after c bet. I'm also having to fire 2 barrels when bluffing OOP because it seems as though nobody ever folds. Also, when 3 betting light they often just call the 3 bets and the cbet will usually take it down, does this mean I should only 3 bet for value?
i'm wondering if my play is too aggressive which could be what is causing my changing Bankroll, Hope this information helps, please ask for some more specifics if it will help answer the question, thanks
 
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If you're barely beating NL 2 and 4, your game has a lot of room for improvement - probably some relatively basic stuff as well as strategy.

And quit blaming suckouts. Assuming a decent sample size, you win a large majority of the hands where you get it in as a strong favorite. Subtract the times you get sucked out on, and you're still well in the black. If you're only a small winner overall, this suggest that you're between a small net loser and b/e on the rest of the hands you play. This further indicates your overall game can stand improvement.
 
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Going from 9ring to 6max is a very tough change to make. In 6max you are going to have position every couple of hands so you have to be playing a lot more hands and open up your range. The most important thing is to get better at post flop play since you should expect to see more flops.
 
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Yeah, and the hands you open your range with can be tricky. I tend to get eaten alive by blinds in 6max playing a 20/10 style but I've seen better TAGs do it effectively. A lot of players raise/call raises in position with hands like J9 and 8Ts and aggressively defend blinds. Raise/cbet pairs from most any position and expect to get paid off handsomely when you make the sets. I doubt the problem is simply that you are too aggressive, but there's a way to do it, and in 50NL it was getting too expensive to learn so I retreated to full ring, something I guess you don't have the option to do. Can you drop down and play 6max at the lower levels? Moving up in limits and changing games is probably not the best idea..
 
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yh i've started trying to play full ring $6 games but there's rarely any tables available so the only other option is $2 full ring which now seems like incredibly slow progress
Arjonius: Sorry it wasn't my intention to be blaming suck outs just saying that they seem to be happening more often on the 6 max tables
thanks for the advice
 
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Arjonius: Sorry it wasn't my intention to be blaming suck outs just saying that they seem to be happening more often on the 6 max tables
I've never seen solid evidence that suckouts happen on a higher % of hands at 6max. However, 6max hands happen faster, so if suckouts happen the same x times per 1000 deals at both 6max and FR, you'll see more suckouts per hour at 6max because you see more deals per hour.
 
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I've never seen solid evidence that suckouts happen on a higher % of hands at 6max. However, 6max hands happen faster, so if suckouts happen the same x times per 1000 deals at both 6max and FR, you'll see more suckouts per hour at 6max because you see more deals per hour.

It seems that players are more aggresisve in 6 max which means they are more likely to suckout on random hands just because they are playing more hands, I could be wrong but do you see my logic?
 
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there are more suckouts at 6 max because players do play more speculative hands
 
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The reason solid 6max players can make money is bc 6max villains overvalue their hands where as in FR hands are valued less and players wait for the nuts. Your premium hands get action from much weaker hands. Saying there's more or too many suckouts is a bad argument. I wish every player at the table would try to suckout on me. In order to get sucked out you gotta be in good.
 
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