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enesem
Rock Star
Silver Level
Has anyone had any success on Zoom ?
For a change, I have had a go at it, 2NL and 5NL. It's a very strange environment, it's the Wild West. I have to say, i am not doing well at it, not at all. I have played about 16k hands, but at a pretty consistent loss.
Here's what it seems to be:
Players will either set mine or play top pair hands. If you make one move post flop, they very quickly go to all in, then you have to decide whether to call or not.
It's a high variance game - and can get very unsettling, it's is very easy to lose one or two buy in's in a very quick space of time.
Tight is generally best, though very often weak hole cards improve and take you out - seemingly much more than normal play.
It's difficult to see if there is anything to be gained by playing Zoom - if you are trying to be a good all round player, is there a need to know how to play Zoom also - does it teach anything you can take into normal games ?
I am pretty much out of my comfort zone playing zoom, on the face of it it seems like it should be simpler. It isn't, though it does seem to show the value of tight ranges and spotting sets (not always successfully).
Mostly though, I lose, I guess I am pretty easy to read - I get consistently outdrawn, many times people get me on the river. (Variance, or bad play by me allowing it..?)
So, Here is the question.
In PT4, each of the stakes I play is shown in red or green, my personal goal is to try and play each stake back to profit. I am making progress in all levels apart from Zoom.
Is it worth carrying on (to become a better at the general game), or should I forget Zoom as an unwelcome distraction, as it's a standalone style of play unrelated to normal games ?
I would be really interested to hear experiences, especially if anyone can relate how they turned from losing to winning, what made the difference.
I forgot to add - I play on a Mac, so the PT HUD does not work in zoom - is it a mistake to play Zoom without the HUD ?
Thanks for any thoughts.
For a change, I have had a go at it, 2NL and 5NL. It's a very strange environment, it's the Wild West. I have to say, i am not doing well at it, not at all. I have played about 16k hands, but at a pretty consistent loss.
Here's what it seems to be:
Players will either set mine or play top pair hands. If you make one move post flop, they very quickly go to all in, then you have to decide whether to call or not.
It's a high variance game - and can get very unsettling, it's is very easy to lose one or two buy in's in a very quick space of time.
Tight is generally best, though very often weak hole cards improve and take you out - seemingly much more than normal play.
It's difficult to see if there is anything to be gained by playing Zoom - if you are trying to be a good all round player, is there a need to know how to play Zoom also - does it teach anything you can take into normal games ?
I am pretty much out of my comfort zone playing zoom, on the face of it it seems like it should be simpler. It isn't, though it does seem to show the value of tight ranges and spotting sets (not always successfully).
Mostly though, I lose, I guess I am pretty easy to read - I get consistently outdrawn, many times people get me on the river. (Variance, or bad play by me allowing it..?)
So, Here is the question.
In PT4, each of the stakes I play is shown in red or green, my personal goal is to try and play each stake back to profit. I am making progress in all levels apart from Zoom.
Is it worth carrying on (to become a better at the general game), or should I forget Zoom as an unwelcome distraction, as it's a standalone style of play unrelated to normal games ?
I would be really interested to hear experiences, especially if anyone can relate how they turned from losing to winning, what made the difference.
I forgot to add - I play on a Mac, so the PT HUD does not work in zoom - is it a mistake to play Zoom without the HUD ?
Thanks for any thoughts.