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enesem
Rock Star
Silver Level
So, I am playing some different tables in order to try a few things out, but I have to say, Zoom 5NL full is giving me a beating. (6 max is fine).
Every top hand I go with gets crushed. My current stats from opening hands (Figures in GBP)
AA: Down 4.54
AKs - Down 1.33
AQs - Down 2.37
AKo - Down 2.08
KK - Up 0.94
KQs - Down 2.59
AQo - Down 5.08
KQo - Down 3.61
QQ - Down 1.78
So, I am trying to play this table type extremely tight, and really trying to be disciplined with big hands. However, I am getting crushed nearly every time.
Example:
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 53.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
SB: 144.4 BB (VPIP: 4.17, PFR: 4.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
BB: 59.6 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (UTG): 42.6 BB
UTG+1: 66.6 BB (VPIP: 11.63, PFR: 6.98, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
UTG+2: 131.8 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP: 114.6 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 8.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
MP+1: 146.8 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
CO: 165.4 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:club: A:heart:
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold
Flop: (13 BB, 4 players) J:spade: 3:spade: 6:heart:
SB checks, Hero bets 39.6 BB and is all-in, CO calls 39.6 BB, fold, fold
Turn: (92.2 BB, 2 players) 5:heart:
River: (92.2 BB, 2 players) J:diamond:
Hero shows A:club: A:heart: (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 85%, Flop 77%, Turn 89%)
CO shows J:heart: Q:spade: (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 15%, Flop 23%, Turn 11%)
CO wins 88.4 BB
Most of my lost hands are odds favourites to win.
I am down 35 GBP over 3500 hands. My method is to buy in with $ 3 dollars instead of 5, then play till I have $4 (profit of 1$), then I leave the table and rejoin. This is minimising my losses.
I am playing my opening hands using a starting hands chart, and trying to follow a strategy of stealing, raising and reraising, as part of a learning path. Using exactly the same methiod have shown good results on Zoom 5 NL 6-max and 5 NL (euro) tables where I have been able to make good inroads into my losses.
Statistically I would have expected it to be more balanced, and for sure I would not have expected all my top hands to be getting crushed as a matter of routine. Bad beats I am learning to take, but this is nearly every buy in - I am losing to much poorer hands.
I suppose I could just avoid this game type, however I would love to be able to make back some of the losses back as part of the learning experience.
I was wondering if anyone else had similar thoughts.
Another one, in case you were wondering...
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 91 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 40.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 106 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
UTG+1: 259.4 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG+2: 161.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 245.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (MP+1): 100.4 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q:diamond: Q:spade:
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (9.4 BB, 3 players) A:club: J:diamond: 8:diamond:
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 4 BB, fold, Hero calls 4 BB
Turn: (17.4 BB, 2 players) A:diamond:
Hero checks, BTN bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB
River: (31.4 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond:
Hero bets 15 BB, BTN calls 15 BB
Hero shows Q:diamond: Q:spade: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 81%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
BTN shows 9:spade: 9:club: (Full House, Nines full of Aces) (Pre 19%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
BTN wins 58.8 BB
My blog of the learning journey:
http://i15518.wix.com/fishtopro
Every top hand I go with gets crushed. My current stats from opening hands (Figures in GBP)
AA: Down 4.54
AKs - Down 1.33
AQs - Down 2.37
AKo - Down 2.08
KK - Up 0.94
KQs - Down 2.59
AQo - Down 5.08
KQo - Down 3.61
QQ - Down 1.78
So, I am trying to play this table type extremely tight, and really trying to be disciplined with big hands. However, I am getting crushed nearly every time.
Example:
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 53.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
SB: 144.4 BB (VPIP: 4.17, PFR: 4.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
BB: 59.6 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (UTG): 42.6 BB
UTG+1: 66.6 BB (VPIP: 11.63, PFR: 6.98, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
UTG+2: 131.8 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP: 114.6 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 8.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
MP+1: 146.8 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
CO: 165.4 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:club: A:heart:
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold
Flop: (13 BB, 4 players) J:spade: 3:spade: 6:heart:
SB checks, Hero bets 39.6 BB and is all-in, CO calls 39.6 BB, fold, fold
Turn: (92.2 BB, 2 players) 5:heart:
River: (92.2 BB, 2 players) J:diamond:
Hero shows A:club: A:heart: (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 85%, Flop 77%, Turn 89%)
CO shows J:heart: Q:spade: (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 15%, Flop 23%, Turn 11%)
CO wins 88.4 BB
Most of my lost hands are odds favourites to win.
I am down 35 GBP over 3500 hands. My method is to buy in with $ 3 dollars instead of 5, then play till I have $4 (profit of 1$), then I leave the table and rejoin. This is minimising my losses.
I am playing my opening hands using a starting hands chart, and trying to follow a strategy of stealing, raising and reraising, as part of a learning path. Using exactly the same methiod have shown good results on Zoom 5 NL 6-max and 5 NL (euro) tables where I have been able to make good inroads into my losses.
Statistically I would have expected it to be more balanced, and for sure I would not have expected all my top hands to be getting crushed as a matter of routine. Bad beats I am learning to take, but this is nearly every buy in - I am losing to much poorer hands.
I suppose I could just avoid this game type, however I would love to be able to make back some of the losses back as part of the learning experience.
I was wondering if anyone else had similar thoughts.
Another one, in case you were wondering...
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 91 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 40.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 106 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
UTG+1: 259.4 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG+2: 161.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 245.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (MP+1): 100.4 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q:diamond: Q:spade:
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (9.4 BB, 3 players) A:club: J:diamond: 8:diamond:
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 4 BB, fold, Hero calls 4 BB
Turn: (17.4 BB, 2 players) A:diamond:
Hero checks, BTN bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB
River: (31.4 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond:
Hero bets 15 BB, BTN calls 15 BB
Hero shows Q:diamond: Q:spade: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 81%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
BTN shows 9:spade: 9:club: (Full House, Nines full of Aces) (Pre 19%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
BTN wins 58.8 BB
My blog of the learning journey:
http://i15518.wix.com/fishtopro