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RamdeeBen
Legend
Silver Level
You have to beat micro limits to advance and be a "good" player? Wrong in my opinion.
Hello everyone.
Now this has been debated before and I’ve had a thread with something simular before.
It’s the theory of “if you can’t beat micros you will never beat anything higher”
Now, I’m not really a lossing player, more break even at the minute with 0.1/0.2 level. I can sit there for hours, playing but long term success at these levels seems next to impossible to me.
Now i know what people are going to say:
“play preminum hands only and play aggresive” – That’s fine because i do.
Problem is, it works on occasions but everyone literally does call a raise with crap. So say after 2/3hours of grinding for example like the other night i was up about $4.00 playing ABC poker. So...you’d begin to think yeah they are beatable however I’ve literrally had callers all over the show pushing down all sorts of crap and luckily mine have held up.
Anyyyway, so you again get a good hand and play TAG only for now to be sucked out when your massive favorite. This only has to happen a couple of times for your profit to now be in the red. So what am i supposed to do? Fold my premnums when showing a profit or something lol? It’s a joke.
Perfect example last night. I had AA and raised 4xBB and yep you guessed it 5 callers at 6maxtable.
Now, would i of got even one caller caller if the money was actually worth something? Proberly not.
Anywaym on the flop comes rainbow and possible straight draw and i knew someone would be holding a straight draw. I tried one last raise to then be re-raised and re-reaised again by others so i folded. 2 left in and at show down one called my raise with something like 8,5 os and one called with A,4. The 8,5 won with a straight.
I asked the guys “why would you call a raise, clearly i had high pair or at least a pair” Their answer? “it’s only 6 cents” True and indeed it’s nothing to fret about but this is the take everyone has on the game at this level. “its only a few cents i’m gonna call”
The point is, this happens 9 times out of 10. A raise at these levels means absolutely NOTHING so how the **** are you supposed to play? The point is, someone 9 times out of 10 will call your raise. Did i get this at a casino playing cash games for the first time ever at 5/10 stakes? No i didn’t and i walked of with over £500 in profit..
So how does peoples theories of if you can’t beat the lowest levels you can’t beat the higher ones. Absolute rubbish to be honest, people just don’t know how to fold or not bothered about lossing a few bucks. At the higher level this would never of got called unless they was holding something decent.
Over time you might just about show a profit but the basic concept of poker doesn't exsist at this level, what am i supposed to do? It happens time and time again it seems pointless. What are your suggestions? Deposit a lot of monies and try luck at higher levels? It's driving me mad trying to build a roll sat there for hours to show a profit and to carry on playing ABC poker etc to then lose 2 of your BIG hands to absolute garbage..i'm really just stuck on what to do.
Hello everyone.
Now this has been debated before and I’ve had a thread with something simular before.
It’s the theory of “if you can’t beat micros you will never beat anything higher”
Now, I’m not really a lossing player, more break even at the minute with 0.1/0.2 level. I can sit there for hours, playing but long term success at these levels seems next to impossible to me.
Now i know what people are going to say:
“play preminum hands only and play aggresive” – That’s fine because i do.
Problem is, it works on occasions but everyone literally does call a raise with crap. So say after 2/3hours of grinding for example like the other night i was up about $4.00 playing ABC poker. So...you’d begin to think yeah they are beatable however I’ve literrally had callers all over the show pushing down all sorts of crap and luckily mine have held up.
Anyyyway, so you again get a good hand and play TAG only for now to be sucked out when your massive favorite. This only has to happen a couple of times for your profit to now be in the red. So what am i supposed to do? Fold my premnums when showing a profit or something lol? It’s a joke.
Perfect example last night. I had AA and raised 4xBB and yep you guessed it 5 callers at 6maxtable.
Now, would i of got even one caller caller if the money was actually worth something? Proberly not.
Anywaym on the flop comes rainbow and possible straight draw and i knew someone would be holding a straight draw. I tried one last raise to then be re-raised and re-reaised again by others so i folded. 2 left in and at show down one called my raise with something like 8,5 os and one called with A,4. The 8,5 won with a straight.
I asked the guys “why would you call a raise, clearly i had high pair or at least a pair” Their answer? “it’s only 6 cents” True and indeed it’s nothing to fret about but this is the take everyone has on the game at this level. “its only a few cents i’m gonna call”
The point is, this happens 9 times out of 10. A raise at these levels means absolutely NOTHING so how the **** are you supposed to play? The point is, someone 9 times out of 10 will call your raise. Did i get this at a casino playing cash games for the first time ever at 5/10 stakes? No i didn’t and i walked of with over £500 in profit..
So how does peoples theories of if you can’t beat the lowest levels you can’t beat the higher ones. Absolute rubbish to be honest, people just don’t know how to fold or not bothered about lossing a few bucks. At the higher level this would never of got called unless they was holding something decent.
Over time you might just about show a profit but the basic concept of poker doesn't exsist at this level, what am i supposed to do? It happens time and time again it seems pointless. What are your suggestions? Deposit a lot of monies and try luck at higher levels? It's driving me mad trying to build a roll sat there for hours to show a profit and to carry on playing ABC poker etc to then lose 2 of your BIG hands to absolute garbage..i'm really just stuck on what to do.