Originally Posted by ramdeebam
99: Well played
44: Bet more on the flop, and probably more on the river. Aggressive fish hate folding top pair.
77: I think the x/c line is fine given how weak his bet sizing is. This actually is an example of the half pot bet/ pot odds you'r getting. You don't think he reps much which he doesn't.= as we see he turns over complete air. Over pairs are betting much bigger in general to get value from the worse pairs. Like the AQ hand you 4bet the other day; when I was trying to explain about your sizing pre and post flop. Your line just didn't look credible for a big hand as you would never bet half pot if you actually did have AA/KK for example.
K5: You really need to stop the min 4bets pre imo, especially even more so with garbage hands like this. You're 4bet bluffing here, you don't want calls..yet you're giving people insanely good odds to call which makes 4betting a waste of time. You may as well just muck. Given how poor our hand is; all the Kx hands he 3bet pre are all calling and literally all have you dominated.
Even suited connectors are all calling, all of which have decent equity vs you. Yeah your right, your cbet sizing again is way to small which you said but why aren't you barrelling the best card in the deck on the turn? Given we 4bet pre; he called our flop bet, he probably has Jx/Qx and if you fire a decent turn bet he's almost always folding. Also; the river shove..not a fan, I mean..your range consists of exactly Kx when you do this as there are no bluffs in your range. Given his x/c on the flop, he likely has a pair. If you bet smaller, you might get some value from some worse hands.
All in all; I just think you need to stop the min 4bets pre and your general bet sizing needs to be more.
44: Hard for fish to catch anything on this flop especially when he checks so I didn't want to be too big OTF. I agree with the river though.
77: My line the other day was for a completely different situation, I was IP and it was a 3 bet pot, I didn't need to bet any bigger than half pot because I could get stacks in by river if I had AA anyway, and as I said that board doesn't connect with most regulars 4 bet calling range anyway. I still disagree, I thought my line looked fine.
K5: It seems that you don't understand the concept of the 4 bet. There isn't any reason to make it bigger at all, the aim is to make the pot large enough to get stacks in by the river, 100BB's deep a MR 4 bet to ~20 BB's is perfectly fine. If I was OOP I would make it ~25 BB's.
This also allows me to MR 4 bet bluff against opponents with extremely high 3 bet % as in the above example. Also he isn't getting the odds needed to call with most of his hands unless he thinks I am 4 bet bluffing a ton (which I'm not, it just happens I did a few recently) as he has bad reverse implied odds.
My cards really didn't matter, a hand with more value would have been better but I thought he would fold most of his 3 betting range to make it profitable.
Also if I 4 bet MR AA here I have to do the same with K5.
I can give many many examples of where I 4 bet aggressive 3 bettors min and they have to fold.
One from today:
Villain is a LAG.
Villain 3 bet stat from BB: 14.8% (27)
Most villains at these stakes aren't willing to 5 bet bluff a whole stack off either to win the small 4 bet.
Also I risk $4.25 to win $3.6~, great odds when he is 3 betting a wide range that can't continue.
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2252741 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/2252741)
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Hero (BTN): $33.03
($0.35) Hero is BTN with 8 ♥
, Hero raises to $0.75
, 1 fold
, BB raises to $2.25
, Hero raises to $5
, 1 fold
Hero wins $4.60
Also suited connectors aren't calling, this would be a serious mistake from villain imo at these stakes. Most of the times you will have to check/fold and if you hit a pair and see aggression your going to be guessing. It's either a small 5 bet bluff with these hands or a fold, and hardly anyone 5 bet bluffs at 25nl.