Wisdom Requested! 100NL strategy

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Hello Friends,

I'm requesting wisdom and guidance to become a winning player 100NL. I have been playing for almost a year. I have some great ups and great downs. I do pretty decent at 5NL - 50NL but I'm awful at multi-tabling. I know I tend to play the Meta style, which is difficult when I have more than one table. Because of this I thought it might be a good idea to keep moving up, but I will either do really well or I just get stomped (we all know that the stomping has more of a bankroll influence than winning lol). I think I'll move back down. I don't bluff alot because if feel that's losing Poker. I feel like I have a great Meta game but I think I lack discipline and structure. I tend to "feel" it out but I know that it's a losing strategy if you don't have a baseline. I'm not a total fish, I always try to play from position. So I guess I'm asking for suggestions on structure.
-what ranges do you suggest?
-any winning strategies that you might have?
-does a poker tracker really help?
If so any suggestions? Free perhaps?
- Is the Meta game not for online, or just low stakes?

If you have an answer to a question I should be asking please post as well.

Thanks everyone in advance for the help!
 
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Here's some advice:
- Buy a HUD like either Holdem Manager 2 or Poker Tracker 4 (costs around $100)
- Watch some Youtube videos on how to beat 2NL (xflixx did some great ones)
- Watch some Youtube videos on The Poker Bank and general TAG strategy
- Start by depositing $80 and building up a bankroll from 2NL
 
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Seriously, the advice given on this forum....

If the op can do "pretty decent" at up to 50nl, why are we telling him to watch 2nl training videos?

@op, I dont think there are a massive number of people on CC that are beating 100nl (to my knowledge), so I suggest you consider very carefully who exactly you take advice from. My personal advice is that you look into poker coaching, as 100nl needs a lot of skills (and the ability to adapt very quickly) which are not even on the radar of most miscrostakes players (even the winners).

Best of luck, please come back and tell us about your 100nl success when you are lolcrushing.
 
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Do you have a HUD already ?

If so I would be interested to see what your win rate per stakes are and also other stats like VPIP. PFR, 3-BET etc.

As for watching 2NL training videos I think that is a great idea for some one who is already a winning player from 5-50NL :rolleyes:

Nah but on a serious note as stated above the amount of members on this site who consistently beat 100NL I would guess will be lower than 5%, so getting a proper coach would be one of the best ways to improve.

Also if you do already have a HUD investing in something like Leakbuster would also be quite helpful.

GL anyway :)
 
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Is it really out of line to tell OP to watch beginner videos if he is asking:

1. What ranges are needed to beat 100NL?

2. Does a poker tracker really help?

Also states:

1. Awful at multitabling

2. "Pretty decent at 5-50NL" which really doesn't mean much considering everyone thinks they are good at poker. Do I need to link an Aaron Soto thread as evidence?

On top of all that this seems to be OPs first time really seeking advice and help with poker so its safe to say he is a beginner and suggesting to watch micro stake videos is not really out of line here(Especially when he admits to lacking structure aka fundamentals). Have you read any books OP?

With all that said, I pretty much agree with Matt here and think OP should deposit a small bankroll and start from the bottom and move up when properly rolled because I suspect he might think he is a better player then he actually is, like all poker players! Also watch some videos and post hands here on CC!

Good luck OP!
 
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I understand where you coming from I-Play I didn't read the full post but still 2NL plays completely different to 100NL.

I would maybe suggest reading BlackRain79's 'Modern Small Stakes' which is aimed at 10-200NL I think.
 
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How many tables are you currently playing ?
 
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I understand where you coming from I-Play I didn't read the full post but still 2NL plays completely different to 100NL.

I would maybe suggest reading BlackRain79's 'Modern Small Stakes' which is aimed at 10-200NL I think.

Very true, but you should to learn to walk before you run
 
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Also what site do you play on mate ?
 
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Very true, but you should to learn to walk before you run

op has already stated he does well at up to 50nl.

I fail to see how a 2nl video would help him develop into a winning 100nl player.

Though I am more than happy to stand corrected.
 
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op has already stated he does well at up to 50nl.

I fail to see how a 2nl video would help him develop into a winning 100nl player.

Though I am more than happy to stand corrected.

You are right, beginning poker players never overestimate their abilities.
 
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Is it really out of line to tell OP to watch beginner videos if he is asking:

1. What ranges are needed to beat 100NL?

2. Does a poker tracker really help?

Also states:

1. Awful at multitabling

2. "Pretty decent at 5-50NL" which really doesn't mean much considering everyone thinks they are good at poker. Do I need to link an Aaron Soto thread as evidence?

On top of all that this seems to be OPs first time really seeking advice and help with poker so its safe to say he is a beginner and suggesting to watch micro stake videos is not really out of line here(Especially when he admits to lacking structure aka fundamentals). Have you read any books OP?

With all that said, I pretty much agree with Matt here and think OP should deposit a small bankroll and start from the bottom and move up when properly rolled because I suspect he might think he is a better player then he actually is, like all poker players! Also watch some videos and post hands here on CC!

Good luck OP!

I have read the following:
Poker that matters by Owen Gaines
Theory of Poker by David sklansky
Poker book of tells by Mike Caro
Power Holdem strategy by Daniel negreanu


Screw Aaron Soto, he is an idiot. I probably am playing over my head, but it's difficult to know. I have poor tendencies of blowing my cash winnings on tournament donkies.

Any suggestions for multi-tabling? I feel like that's the only way to make decent money in micro stakes. As I stated, that's the only reason I move up, because I have a difficult time playing on more than one table. When I do, I feel I do great at 5nl-50nl but it's tedious and not so rewarding. I suppose it's like any job, I have to deal with the bs before I can have fun in the higher stakes.

I will definitely get a poker tracker of some kind, just so I can know for sure.

I try to educate myself as much as possible but there is so many stinkin' ways to play this damn game that after awhile I feel like I'm at square one not knowing what to do and if I'm even playing correctly. I pretend that it means I'm a balanced player but insecure is a better word.

Thanks
 
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I understand where you coming from I-Play I didn't read the full post but still 2NL plays completely different to 100NL.

I would maybe suggest reading BlackRain79's 'Modern Small Stakes' which is aimed at 10-200NL I think.

Will do thanks!!
 
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Also what site do you play on mate ?

I play ACR, and Bovada. I used to play betonline.ag and sportsbetting.ag but it's a shitty client and I hate the blackjack table I can't get rid of. It also seems that on the latter sites that either the games are super soft or full of regulars. Probably due to the low traffic
 
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op has already stated he does well at up to 50nl.

I fail to see how a 2nl video would help him develop into a winning 100nl player.

Though I am more than happy to stand corrected.

I've read a couple threads you're in and read through your Vegas post... You have the wisdom I seek. If you have the time and care, I would like to stay in contact. Email me at pokergene12@gmail.com, only of you want. If not I understand. Perhaps an accountability partner is what I need. An honest opinion outside of my own head.

Thanks
 
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The books you listed besides poker math that matters and maybe sklansky are not going to help you online.

After reading more of your post I have to say you seem very experienced and I suggest you just watch some fundamental videos and post some hands to discuss.
 
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The books you listed besides poker math that matters and maybe sklansky are not going to help you online.

After reading more of your post I have to say you seem very experienced and I suggest you just watch some fundamental videos and post some hands to discuss.

Thanks! But I'd hardly say I'm experienced. I've only been playing for almost a year. Addicted, yes
 
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Typo, I meant inexperienced.

Well thanks for no help. I'm honestly asking for assistance, hence meaning inexperienced. Not sure of you were just testing to see what my response may be, but Please only productive criticisms.
Hopefully I play you sometime so you can typo your chips into the pot
 
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Haha good joke there about the typo. Yeah 100NL online is pretty tough, and I don't really think you should just jump into it. Are you a proven winner at 50NL over a decent hand sample size? If not, I strongly recommend doing so. I only played like 15k hands at 50NL and shotted 100NL only mainly because Bovada Zone tables only run 2-3 hrs a day, and that was annoying since I can't multitable more than 4 cash games. I thought I had a pretty decent edge too, so I was willing to take the shot and move back down if it didn't go well.

Judging from your posts, like Iplay said you seem a bit inexperienced. Practice at the lower stakes first. If you are asking about what ranges you should use for 100NL, you probably aren't ready for it. You need to have a least a decent amount of knowledge of ranges to be a winning player at 100NL.

Tbh I think most books are outdated in terms of online play. And Daniel Negreneau probably doesn't know what he's talking about in cash games. He's considered a fish at the high stakes where all the strong regs are. I've heard that when he plays online at the big tables once or twice a year, the regs are on the waiting list for his table. I've seen some of his reasoning/analysis for some hands he's played in high stakes poker, and it's pretty bad. He sometimes bets/raises "to see where he's at," and seems to be very loose yet more towards the passive side postflop. He may be a great tournament player and great at reading live players, but cash games probably not so much.
 
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Well thanks for no help. I'm honestly asking for assistance, hence meaning inexperienced. Not sure of you were just testing to see what my response may be, but Please only productive criticisms.
Hopefully I play you sometime so you can typo your chips into the pot

Exactly, and what I'm trying to say is that you need to start from the bottom and work your way up and 2NL videos will probably be beneficial to your game at this point.

No inexperienced players are regularly beating 10NL online let alone 50NL.

I wasn't trying to be a dick and have been nicer to you then I am to most. You say "thanks for no help" but in reality Matt, Johnny and I are the only people that have given you advice in this thread. Everyone else just pointed out the fact that most players on this forum cannot beat 100NL.

Also, we can hu4rollz if you are being serious, lol.
 
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Haha good joke there about the typo. Yeah 100NL online is pretty tough, and I don't really think you should just jump into it. Are you a proven winner at 50NL over a decent hand sample size? If not, I strongly recommend doing so. I only played like 15k hands at 50NL and shotted 100NL only mainly because Bovada Zone tables only run 2-3 hrs a day, and that was annoying since I can't multitable more than 4 cash games. I thought I had a pretty decent edge too, so I was willing to take the shot and move back down if it didn't go well.

Judging from your posts, like Iplay said you seem a bit inexperienced. Practice at the lower stakes first. If you are asking about what ranges you should use for 100NL, you probably aren't ready for it. You need to have a least a decent amount of knowledge of ranges to be a winning player at 100NL.

Tbh I think most books are outdated in terms of online play. And Daniel Negreneau probably doesn't know what he's talking about in cash games. He's considered a fish at the high stakes where all the strong regs are. I've heard that when he plays online at the big tables once or twice a year, the regs are on the waiting list for his table. I've seen some of his reasoning/analysis for some hands he's played in high stakes poker, and it's pretty bad. He sometimes bets/raises "to see where he's at," and seems to be very loose yet more towards the passive side postflop. He may be a great tournament player and great at reading live players, but cash games probably not so much.

Right on man, thanks. I'm obviously getting too ahead of myself, I'll drop down to 5nl and try to get better at multi-tabling and get tracking software so I can actually know where I'm at.
 
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Exactly, and what I'm trying to say is that you need to start from the bottom and work your way up and 2NL videos will probably be beneficial to your game at this point.

No inexperienced players are regularly beating 10NL online let alone 50NL.

I wasn't trying to be a dick and have been nicer to you then I am to most. You say "thanks for no help" but in reality Matt, Johnny and I are the only people that have given you advice in this thread. Everyone else just pointed out the fact that most players on this forum cannot beat 100NL.

Also, we can hu4rollz if you are being serious, lol.

Cool man thanks. There's a few bozos on here and I wasn't sure what your angle was. I do appreciate your input.

I'd be down to play on ACR, but seeing as you're the one giving the advice. 5nl heads up lol
 
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You are right, beginning poker players never overestimate their abilities.

I see your point, but if they want to fabricate their success in their post then thats their problem. They will just receive answers that are not relevant to their situation,. I myself will only provide my answers based on the information given. I have no interest in second guessing wether or not its accurate.

op, please quantify for us. What are your win rates (or rough profit levels) at 10nl-50nl?

Anyhow, 50nl can be very rewarding, assuming you are any good. Search for 50nl poker graphs, some of them are very tidy!
 
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