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I was playing poker the other night, and I lost, AGAIN! I don't think I'm a bad player, but I keep losing. I play pretty tight, and only play pretty good hands, but, every once in a while I'll bluff and then some times I'll win. But at every table there are those people that have no clue what they're doing, they call my ace king with something like three six off, and end up with a staight. I some how always lose to these people, does any one have any tips on how to beat them?
 
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In the long run the odds will even out and you will make money. In the situation you gave, that is exactly what you want! Occasionally they will draw out, that happens, but sooner or later you will be paid off. I believe Phil Hellmuth said in his book something along the lines of, "You know you are playing well if you are taking a lot of bad beats". This is true. If you are entering a situation where you have them all in, and they draw out, but you were the favorite, oh well. It happens. You just have to put it behind you, and make sure you don't allow the beat to effect your play. You want to get in situations where you are the favorite whenever possible. That's the name of the game.
 
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I am very prone myself to paying off suckouts. The main problem is; I correctly put them on a weak hand and my instincts take over BUT a calling station will call you with anything! So what you must do is get their money in preflop so you can make up for that one big suckout loss.
NOW I have a perfect example(tourney not ring) that happened today in our Paradise tourney for respect sake I will leave out the player's(1 opponent) name. 2 big hands in the tournament I correctly guessed my opponent was weak but this player had a better hand than mine and called me down, of course winning both hands BIG but with relatively weak hands.
NOW onto later in the tourney for 4 straight rounds when this player was in the BB I pushed real hard with decent but not great hands knowing that eventually I would get a weak call when I had a better hand thus making my opponent commit EARLY in the hand in order to recover from the earlier hands.
SO the point is effective preflop aggression is a MUST IMHO against calling stations so that you punish them when they don't "catch a flop".
 
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Three Dogs said:
But at every table there are those people that have no clue what they're doing, they call my ace king with something like three six off, and end up with a staight.
What limits are you playing? If you´re playing at micro limits, the best way to play is just playing premium hands over aggressive. If you´re playing NLHE, your preflop raises should be 5+ x BB. As XD said, you must be very aggressive preflop to punish the maniacs.

Three Dogs said:
I'll bluff and then some times I'll win
Really? Is it profitable to you to bluff at those kind of tables or you lose more than you win?
At microlimits i recommend not to bluff because you´re going to be called.

That´s another reason of playing the extremly tight-extremely aggressive style. You know you´re going to get callers even if you make a huge raise and you have been playing 10% of hands. At those limits the players just play their cards, so you don´t have a table image. They don´t realize that if you´re extremely tight and you come with a raise, probably you have a great hand. You have to take advantage of not having a tight table image, and the best way to do that is raising a lot with monster hands. Of course you can´t prevent bad beats but they will happen less often than the hands you´ll win.
That way of playing is boring and it isn´t good poker. If you play in that way against good players, you´ll become an open book and they´ll fold to your raises making you go blinded out. So it´s important to remember that the extremely tight-extremely aggressive style works at low limits where you don´t have a table image. That style just works to make you win some money at those tables, so don´t stick to that style where you think there are better players.
Another thing to remember: after a bad beat don´t go on tilt. Just keep playing your game and as joshyb said what really matters is that in the long run you will win money.
 
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getting angry when you lose a strong hand to a chancer is the reason i find that i eventually lose... especially online....i used to play well all night only to lose it when some scmuck gets lucky with a poor initial hand and this affected my game(and still does sometimes..i cannot help it)...maybe you have the same problem as me. a good solution if you have this tendency is leave the pc for a while...make the wife a cup of tea and even talk to her about her day....then go back in after you calm down...it has worked for me this past month and im beggining to start profiting after a year of play....i even do this at big tourneys and freerolls when im in a strong position and lose to some lucky motormouth freak who just keeps winning....and now im finding that in the very late stages of big tourneys that these freaks are treated as banks by the rest of the good players....they just keep withdrawing from them...thats my two pennies worth and it is working for me right now
 
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