Why so many Russians

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I have only started to play cash on pokerstars recently (played about 8k hands) and an early observation is that i always seem to have at least 50% of the table from Russia (6 max). They all like to gamble and have very high VPIP, is this common ?

If you have this many gamblers on one table would the strategy be to tighten up a little bit more ?
 
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Hehe I noticed them either, when I started playing there. A lot of them! They are everywhere! :)

Yes, with loose players the strategy is definitely to tighten up. This works because on average you play better hands then them, also when you hit the flop you hit it hard. Their wide range does poorly against dry flops with a single
high card (continuation bet!) but generates more flush/straight draw possibilities (some Russians love to push with flush draws :)).

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Because their poplulation reaches close to 150,000,000 (yes, 150 million). That's quite a bit of Russian people. :)
 
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Currently on a 6 max table with 5 Russians..lol
 
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thats because there are lots of russian players, and some of them don't play very good. But don't understimate a russian ayer, because I have seen some of them with a great play.
 
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The more of them the better,



Rarely you will meet passive players of them.
 
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I have only started to play cash on Pokerstars recently (played about 8k hands) and an early observation is that i always seem to have at least 50% of the table from Russia (6 max). They all like to gamble and have very high VPIP, is this common ?

If you have this many gamblers on one table would the strategy be to tighten up a little bit more ?

High VPIP this $$$, on the contrary should be good to reduce range hands and u can exploitation Russian players :rolleyes:
 
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Because their poplulation reaches close to 150,000,000 (yes, 150 million). That's quite a bit of Russian people. :)

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yes, this is very practical answer. I just want to add that there's many many more of Chinese, they like to gamble, but they have their work in first place, they don't have many time to gamble.
 
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Its not going to really matter how many russians are at the table tbh, a lot of them buy in for 40bbs and wait for a big hand......but in general its good to just play a TAG style and find juicy tables at micro levels....I think you can open upyour game and get more loose in the 25nl levels onwards...
 
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Its not going to really matter how many russians are at the table tbh, a lot of them buy in for 40bbs and wait for a big hand......but in general its good to just play a TAG style and find juicy tables at micro levels....I think you can open upyour game and get more loose in the 25nl levels onwards...

I think, a lot of people are thinking "collusion" when they see more than 2 Russians at the table. I guess that lots of people don't understand russian mentality and base their opinion on speculation and hear say. It's a mistake to generalize like this and put all Russians in the same basket though, not to mention, think of them as some sort of Trojan horse of steel. The opposite is true. I haven't heard of more than two, maybe three Russian top poker players. Out of 150 million people that's quite low.
 
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I have only started to play cash on Pokerstars recently (played about 8k hands) and an early observation is that i always seem to have at least 50% of the table from Russia (6 max). They all like to gamble and have very high VPIP, is this common ?

If you have this many gamblers on one table would the strategy be to tighten up a little bit more ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdvNGx7oHGI

...and they all celebrate like this too when they suckout lol
 
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Its not going to really matter how many russians are at the table tbh, a lot of them buy in for 40bbs and wait for a big hand......but in general its good to just play a TAG style and find juicy tables at micro levels....I think you can open upyour game and get more loose in the 25nl levels onwards...

I know your right, i just think i am falling just the wrong side of the variance curve at the moment and i am losing to the fish to often. But that will change just have to stick with it.
 
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I have only started to play cash on Pokerstars recently (played about 8k hands) and an early observation is that i always seem to have at least 50% of the table from Russia (6 max). They all like to gamble and have very high VPIP, is this common ?

If you have this many gamblers on one table would the strategy be to tighten up a little bit more ?

It's because Russia is the biggest country of the World and has more than 140M people.
I have heard that their government try to ban them from playing but fortunatelly no successfully. They bring a lot of money in poker rooms, so the more russians the better. :)
You cant make a strategy against "russian community", you can make strategy against a player you know (based on statistics and memory).
 
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They are good at games (used to focus mainly on chess, now at lot of them play poker :)
 
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They are a lot but do not think that if they are from Russia they are bad. The percentage of bad Russians players is equal with the percentage of bad players around the world. The percentage of good Russians players is equal with the percentage of good players around the world. They have a handicap though. I think a lot of them play while drinking :D
Anyway if you look where they are from that means you are distracted. The only informations you should be looking for are his stats and notes. Everything else is irrelevant for poker.
 
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They are good at games (used to focus mainly on chess, now at lot of them play poker :)

This is a misconception. I play chess at chess.com, the biggest, if not the only one, chess site on the Internet. Very small number of Russians play chess there which shows that "russians playing chess" is just as much of a stereotype as all Japanese being samurai or all Chinese being ninjas. :D
 
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This is a misconception. I play chess at chess.com, the biggest, if not the only one, chess site on the Internet. Very small number of Russians play chess there which shows that "russians playing chess" is just as much of a stereotype as all Japanese being samurai or all Chinese being ninjas. :D

Ninja's were Japanese too....
 
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An oldie but a goodie!

 
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It seems there was a boom of Russian players who registered just afer Black Friday. Why, I don't know... Lots of theories about that :p
 
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why are you a problem? are you country who hates russian? :confused:
 
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They are usually polarized - meganits and total aggrodonks.
 
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because US players are not allowed to play real

if you switch....sitting on playmoney 6-MAX,

I do think , US player have an overwhelming numbers! LOL
 
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because US players are not allowed to play real

if you switch....sitting on playmoney 6-MAX,

I do think , US player have an overwhelming numbers! LOL

True... I play for play money on poker stars from time to time. Lots of U.S. players there.
 
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