I think its usually seen as bad because for it to happen, someone in late position has to 3bet preflop
no it does not.
preflop: everybody folds, BTN open raises, SB folds, BB calls.
flop: BB donk bets.
This is by far the most common donk betting scenario.
I guess its only bad for the losers.But it can ruin a game for everyone else if ya have a nut getting lucky and taking everyone out with stupid cards.
Please read thread before posting. You clearly don't know what "donk betting" means.
no a "donk bet" and "stop and go" are the same if that helps. basically you call a raise OOP then bet into the raiser of the flop. this can be a good bet in 2 spots i can think of. 1. you were set mining and hit your set on a board full of draws. 2. you called a raise in the blinds from a probably steal and you donk the flop as opposed to 3betting preflop. i'm sure there are other times this is a good move but cant think of any off hand.Maybe this is too simplified or ion correct but I thought donk betting was calling big bets on draws hoping to get lucky.
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Guys you should know that without the donks, The pros wont exist at all !! So I say Respect the donks and push them to the limit
no it does not.
preflop: everybody folds, BTN open raises, SB folds, BB calls.
flop: BB donk bets.
This is by far the most common donk betting scenario.
Say BB has mid pair and calls to see flop and hits a set or better. What is proper play, check raise, check call? Lots of supposes out there cause you would need more info on BTN and situation...i.e. tourney or ring, stack sizes, etc. But this is a general question.
It seems when someone loses they always say that, to me a donk is someone in a freeroll who goes in every hand kamikaze style and hopes to win and they seem to be lucky a lot but usually get killed off eventually.
It's not bad per se. It can be very bad or very good. It depends.
Calling oop is pretty bad in most cases, though. And you need to do that to get a chance to donk bet.
Betting out of position when you were not the preflop raiser.
preflop: everybody folds, BTN open raises, SB folds, BB calls.
flop: BB donk bets.
This is by far the most common donk betting scenario.
But Like Zack says, seems like it can be useful to know where you stand.
Let's say you have AT suited, hit middle pair and a nut flush draw.
no a "donk bet" and "stop and go" are the same if that helps. basically you call a raise OOP then bet into the raiser of the flop. this can be a good bet in 2 spots i can think of. 1. you were set mining and hit your set on a board full of draws. 2. you called a raise in the blinds from a probably steal and you donk the flop as opposed to 3betting preflop. i'm sure there are other times this is a good move but cant think of any off hand.
Reread zach's post. He says the exact opposite. He says donk betting can be good, but that it's really bad when the intend is to know where you stand.
middle pair + over + nut flush draws is a monster and you can either donk or check-raise, in both cases with the intention to get all the money in on the flop if villain raises.
Yep, my bad on the first part. Second part, I'd be a little nervous about this, assuming a good possibility he hit the top pair.