Why does it happen too often?

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What is the possibility of you having KK and opponent AA at the same time?
It might have been happened to me for like more than 100 times.
I knew my opponent had AA but still i could never fold KK preflop.
 
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It does not seem to happen that often to me. I would say it is just a run of bad cards.
 
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As online we see many cards, it happens.
Rough answer to your question: 0.002%
When playing enough hands, statistics will show that KK is a winning hand, but lack of skills can reduce the winnings.
 
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Typical scenario, nit (11 vpip, 5 pfr, 1 3bet) opens utg -> hero 3bets with KdKh -> utg 4bets

What is probability villain has AA?

Villain’s total range is KK+ hero is blocking KK so there are 6 combos AA and 1 combo KK thus:

Probablity hero is facing AA is 6/7 = 86%
:p
 
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If you for a day of playing repeatedly hit the KK against AA means a very bad day for you. For me, КК against AA is not very common.
 
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so it happens because online poker has nothing to with real poker, and in online poker the best cards are associated with the number of chips, and the programs make such random
 
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I am playing a lot of heads up. Everytime I got a premium card to shove preflop, like a pair, or AK, my opponent has something good to answer like a QQ premium pair, or AQ.

The thing is I dont put into consideration the times that I have Aces or Kings and get no action because of the folds or when I win. And that is probably happening to your case too.


When someone 4-bet your already big bet should tell you something. And I was speaking about heads up, where is just one player, in cash games there are more players=more chances to also hold a premium pair. In your case, Kings to run into Aces in a full table, I've read somewhere its roughly 1 to 20 times. So, if it happens more than this, my only suggestion is to join the Rigged Mega Thread:icon_rabb:icon_rabb
 
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Happened to me maybe 3x in 5 years.
 
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it happens very often. Those that say it doesn't happen, might not be watching the game. Statistics show that it should happen about 10% of the time but i've seen it happen many many times on online poker. Daniel pro player even says it happens often in live play. If you have KK and an ace lands on the table, 90% of the time someone will have the ace.
 
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it happened only a couple of times for me, but rarely to even consider this.
 
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Online poker is a program. Written by some kind of person. It simply executes commands. This is not a very random action. You could easily find some kind of pattern
 
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I think that your memory remembers only those moments when you lose.
 
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You did everything right preflop fold with a pair of KK is not a very small probability that he has AA if you look at the distances in most cases you would win the Bank , but the limp older couples this is a big mistake and can seriously pagelet.
 
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I understand how ya feel.
Its difficult to fold KK....
 
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It has happened to all of us, we just have to overcome it
 
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It happens to me often, When I have AA someone has KK and When I have KK someone has AA.
 
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Daniel Negreaunu said never to fold KK PF ever. HE said he did it one time in a MTT and the raiser QQ. never again.

the way to figure the odds looks like this and should be adjusted per the number of people at the table, 210 divided by the number of people at the table, so if you are playing 6max or 4max you are safer still.
 
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What if you raise 3 BB from utg with KK and guy from UTG+1 min raises and another player from hijack 3 bets?
 
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I think it all depends on the size of the bank (cash), or stage (tourney), and there are still a lot of factors. You can drop kings.
 
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It happens. I'd rather flip all in pre and see my KK facing AA and say nice hand then flip and see Ace rag and an Ace falls on river lol. Which also just happened again...and literally got KK as I typed this....and lost to AK.
 
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It happens, but I think also you remember the times it happens more often than the times you get AA make a PFR and everyone folds. Just sticks out more in your mind.
 
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It happens, but I think also you remember the times it happens more often than the times you get AA make a PFR and everyone folds. Just sticks out more in your mind.

or get AA all in and lose to like 64o on the river lol. At least with the pre flop folds we win the "pot." :p

But seriously a better perspective is to see how much one has won with AA and KK anyways, over 56,000 hands past 7 weeks or so I've made 3,435bbs with AA and 2,252bbs with KK and most tellingly 2,300bbs with AK meaning i've probably had my AK suck out on KK as well in my favor quite a few times. :D
 
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You definitively got a point.It happens a lot especially on low cash tables such as 1/2$ etc.
 
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I am not worry AA when i have KK but several times when i have AA and don't call all in then i lost to flush or straight.
 
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