Originally Posted by c9h13no3
Cuz A9 vs. AK never happens....
And yeah, straights happen less frequently. But this is no limit. We make WAY more with a straight than we do middle pair. Typically when middle pair goes to showdown, it's a money loser in no limit. When you flop 28J with A8, you're just hoping to play the tiniest pot possible.
Making hands that are really strong but infrequent is really profitable as long as you don't have to pay too much to make them and you can get paid when you hit. Think how profitable it is to flop sets.
If you're playing limit poker, this doesn't apply since it's much cheaper to reach showdown and you can't bet huge when you make monster hands. So A9 is better than A2.
Yea, but everything you just said equally applies to A5 with a flop of 25J.
The difference lies in the better kicker of A6-A9. As the TC said, hitting two pair with A6-A9 means more and is a stronger scenario than with A2-A5. The reason being if you have A2s and the flop comes A25, you could be up against someone with the wheel straight or drawing into it. Furthermore, even if YOU are the one with the wheel straight (say A2 on a board of 3456Q) all it takes is someone with a measly 7 to break you.
I agree with TC. A2-A5 sound better on paper, but A6-A9s are superior in practice.
Now, I think there needs to be a disclaimer in general about the wheel straight too. Unless there are 4 cards to it on the board (2345 typically), how often do you actually see someone hit this when playing? Practically never. That's because nearly nobody is playing 23, 45, 52, etc...