Where do you draw the line on PP

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At what PP are you willing to call an all in on the first hand of a major tournament?
 
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My rule on calling any All-In is simple, only do it if i am either 99% sure i'm ahead or that i have a massive chance outdrawing a hand i know my opponant is holding.

e.g. I have AK and i know my opponant (Played with him/her enough to have a read on him/her) likes to go all-in on the BB with any ACE but slow plays pocket pair slowly.
 
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If I can get a huge amount of chips by doing so (more than one player calls my all in), I would say either Pocket Kings or Aces, preferably Pocket Aces.
 
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First hand of a tournament? I am assuming preflop.

In a tournament I think you have to take advantage of every situation where you are ahead. Therefore, I would say AA or KK (possibly) just for the simple fact that I want to be ahead in the hand if I am going to do it.

Sounds boring but I think that is the only safe calls there until you know the table better.
 
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If you face a coin toss 3 time in a tournament, what are your chances of winning all 3? About 13%. Early on in tournaments, this is just the kind of situation you want to avoid. Unless you've got AA-QQ, I wouldn't go up against more than one caller.

A ring game is a different story. Always go with the odds.
 
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Depends on the speed of the tournament. With slower speed tournaments I'm more willing to wait before going all in. But in turbos, with the blinds increasing every 5 minutes (and sometimes faster!) you have work a bit faster and be ready to go all-in with something less than AA, KK or AK.
 
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One more thing about AK. Unless you're falling behind and need to make a move this is a terrible hand to call an all-in with, suited or un. Most likely you're up against a pair of some sort in which case you're the underdog in a coin toss. Worst case, you're up against AA,or KK in which case you're practically drawing dead out of the gate. So when you call an all-in with this hand, what you're really hoping for is the least likely outcome. AQ through AT. It's possible, but not good tournament strategy.
 
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AA maybe, depends on # of callers, how I have been playing leading up to tourney. I don't normally have any problem laying down big PP very early in tourneys. Played in too many 9 & 10 seat SNG's where 3 or 4 go all in first hand & winner does not even finish in money.
 
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i'm assuming the type of tourney you're playing is pretty loose if there's an all-in 1st hand, especially pre-flop
i guess it'd have to be AA-QQ HU or probably just Aces if theres more than one opponent who's pushed
 
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I've actually tightened WAAY up now the past few days and have seen a HUGE improvement in my game. I've actually thrown away 22 - 66 in ring games in the face of a raise, and in tournements the same way. No use going into the flop ahead to three or 4 people EACH with a 5:6 shot at pairing the board by the river to beat your 2s ... especially in a raised pot where there is sure to be A rag or better.
 
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only place i'd play 22 is with 4 limpers in front of me or more, and i'd prolly minraise there to get my money's worth out of the chance of hitting my set
 
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ChuckTs said:
i'm assuming the type of tourney you're playing is pretty loose if there's an all-in 1st hand, especially pre-flop
i guess it'd have to be AA-QQ HU or probably just Aces if theres more than one opponent who's pushed
This is a hypothetical question..
 
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Well then hypothetically if i were to have a person push into me in a tournament then i'd classify the tournament as pretty loose... i guess it'd have to be AA-QQ HU or probably just Aces if theres more than one opponent who's pushed
 
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