Originally Posted by Elie_Yammine
Why is everyone so certain you will lose after you double up?I had 3 sessions in the past days where I bought in for 4$ on the 20-50BB .10 tables and got it up to 16$ then left...Of course, you risk losing your double-up if you value TPTK too much or make a wrong read or lose to a bad beat against a bigger stack...The latter is known to happen and cost you your double-up sometimes, and of course there are many sessions that end up this way, but should you win that one then you're good to go!
Consider the following:
Not everybody is good at deep stack poker.
While it's one of my better games (in cash, I don't like being the deep stack in a tournament, I get bored and end up spewing), not everybody understands all the concepts.
Suppose Villain A and myself have 400 BBs each. Villain B has 100 BBs.
Villain A raises to 3 BBs, I call, Villain B raises to 9 BBs, Villain A folds. My implied odds
just took a massive dive. Against Villain A I play a lot of hands. Anything with remote straight or flush possibility, especially if I can get to a flop cheaply. Some of the biggest cash game pots I've won this year have been with garbage cards at high effective stacks against premium hands that make TpTk or an overpair.
I kid you not, I've had 24o win me $400 (total pot size $700) where I only put $45 into the pot where I was behind, I've had 86o crack aces w/ flopped trips for a $650 profit where I only put $12 into the pot bad, I've had 35o win a gigantic 3-way all-in pot when I called a preflop raise in position, got a free turn to connect to my gutshot straight draw, and stacks went in for upwards of $600 profit, and I called a raise from position with T5s (I fold this 19/20 times, but as stacks get higher the first number gets lower...) to flop a flush against a silly overpair without so much as a runner runner full house draw. All of these hands were within approximately six sessions in a fifteen day period at a $300 BI live table.
The risks associated with my playstyle are known to me, so are the rewards. If you can't deal with somebody at the table who is willing to open their calling range greatly as effective stack sizes go up, then you don't have any business playing deepstacked, and should leave when you're double your buy-in.
But I've made rent payments (if I paid rent, the Army does a good job of giving me a barracks room) in a single hand that would have been snap-folded preflop because people don't know how to deny me implied odds.
(I'll give you a hint, it's not calling my CRAI on the turn with TpTk or an overpair, regardless of board texture...)
Maybe I'll make a thread about that.