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dumpy620_84
Rock Star
Silver Level
Hi all,
I have been thinking about this for a week or so, and haven't really come up with a solid answer. But, when is it a good idea to employ pot odds in making a decision (call, fold mostly)?
If I understand things correctly (notice the 'if') the following is a *rough* estimate of bets / odds / outs:
size of bet...%of pot you put in...#outs needed (next card)
1/4 pot bet.....16%.......................8
1/2 pot bet.....25%.......................12
3/4 pot bet.....30%.......................15
1/1 pot bet.....33%.......................16
Based on these 4 scenarios against one player (and neglecting implied odds you or your opponent not all in, etc..), to make this call, you would have to have something along the lines of
1. an open ended straight draw
2. flush draw + inside straight draw (maybe hit a high pair or two pair)
3. a flush draw + open ended straight draw
4. and finally, some really amazing draw where you have 16+ outs
I see bets of 1/3 - pot sized all the time ($0.05/$0.10 NL). Most people don't adhere anywhere near what the pot odds say they should do (including myself). So, I have come to the conclusion that pot odds are something to consider, but not to base decisions strictly on (Mr Obvious, I know). Which brings me to my question, of when do you employ pot odds? At what point in the hand? What about multi-way pots?? Odds get much better, but better chance of someone else beating you. Just trying to figure out how this information should be incorporated in your game.
Also, maybe I am misinterpreting something along the way. If so, please feel free to correct me / tell me I'm a moron / etc...
I have been thinking about this for a week or so, and haven't really come up with a solid answer. But, when is it a good idea to employ pot odds in making a decision (call, fold mostly)?
If I understand things correctly (notice the 'if') the following is a *rough* estimate of bets / odds / outs:
size of bet...%of pot you put in...#outs needed (next card)
1/4 pot bet.....16%.......................8
1/2 pot bet.....25%.......................12
3/4 pot bet.....30%.......................15
1/1 pot bet.....33%.......................16
Based on these 4 scenarios against one player (and neglecting implied odds you or your opponent not all in, etc..), to make this call, you would have to have something along the lines of
1. an open ended straight draw
2. flush draw + inside straight draw (maybe hit a high pair or two pair)
3. a flush draw + open ended straight draw
4. and finally, some really amazing draw where you have 16+ outs
I see bets of 1/3 - pot sized all the time ($0.05/$0.10 NL). Most people don't adhere anywhere near what the pot odds say they should do (including myself). So, I have come to the conclusion that pot odds are something to consider, but not to base decisions strictly on (Mr Obvious, I know). Which brings me to my question, of when do you employ pot odds? At what point in the hand? What about multi-way pots?? Odds get much better, but better chance of someone else beating you. Just trying to figure out how this information should be incorporated in your game.
Also, maybe I am misinterpreting something along the way. If so, please feel free to correct me / tell me I'm a moron / etc...