Originally Posted by Ronaldadio
Does every really awesome person on this site think that every person is picking at their game???
I simply asked for a definition of a `value bet`, nothing more, nothing less.
As it turns out there seems to be a lot of different definitions.
If, as was my understanding, a value bet was a bet you made knowing you had the best hand, why would you fold to a reraise.
As some people seem to think you can`t ever know if u have the best hand, here is an example.
You hold AA, flop is AA9 - u now have the best hand, u know you have the best hand so you value bet, bet to try to extract as much as you can from your opponent.
If this is not the definition of a value bet so be it, I really don`t care.
This isn't the definition for value bet. The definition of betting with the nuts is not a very useful one, since it happens so rarely.
The reason we talk about "value bets" is to distinguish them from bluffs and semi-bluffs. A bet is (should be) made for a reason, and it's the reason - the intent - that is stated when someone says he made a value bet. E.g., if I have 2-2 on a 9-7-3-T-9 board, and I bet in position. That can be a value bet vs. AK, it can also be a bluff vs. 44-66, A7, etc. What my opponent has doesn't matter, what matters - for the sake of discussing it - is what my intention is when I make the bet.
Do you now see why betting for value and folding to a re-raise aren't mutually exclusive?
You told me earlier that I had to read the thread you were referring to in order to understand the context. I did actually read that thread before even seeing this one, but that thread has no bearing on what a value bet is. And you seem very frustrated that everyone is disagreeing with you, and at some point I think you're going to have to face the reason
everyone's disagreeing with you.