What is the normal all in preflop range vs fish at 2NL?

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So I had TT and fish went all in. I did call him because I've seen fishes go all in with all kinds of stuff like 77 and what not. I did not knew about this particular player though, but he was a fish so I assumed it might be the case too. I do not know whether it was right thing to call an all in from a fish with TT though. Was it? What should be my all in preflop range against fish at 2NL? Generally speaking? There's an example of what I'm talking about:


$0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $2.05 (VPIP: 9.08, PFR: 6.93, 3Bet Preflop: 2.68, hands: 704)
UTG: $3.42 (VPIP: 16.23, PFR: 13.70, 3Bet Preflop: 4.68, Hands: 1,431)
UTG+1: $2.09 (VPIP: 22.16, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 1.79, Hands: 552)
MP: $4.04 (VPIP: 14.59, PFR: 11.08, 3Bet Preflop: 4.30, Hands: 1,675)
MP+1: $1.10 (VPIP: 26.98, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 127)
MP+2: $1.97 (VPIP: 35.47, PFR: 18.02, 3Bet Preflop: 11.59, Hands: 174)
CO: $2.98 (VPIP: 26.46, PFR: 4.30, 3Bet Preflop: 2.00, Hands: 261)
Hero (BTN): $2.04
SB: $1.00 (VPIP: 11.21, PFR: 6.12, 3Bet Preflop: 0.70, Hands: 437)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has T♠ T♣

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to $0.06, MP+2 raises to $1.97 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $1.97, fold, fold, fold
 
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So I had TT and fish went all in. I did call him because I've




Tell me please, why did you decide that he is a fish? Because of vpip 35 and 3bet 11? This is the standard spectrum for any lag; we can not say that he is a fish only because of this information. The only thing that looks weird is his all in, any normal regular, will play post-flop to get more profit
Are you talking about the normal range, having a stack of 100 bb? This is exclusively KK +. Even if a person in MP2 is a fish, this is no reason to call push 100bb with TT.
Maybe he has AJo, QJo, KQo, KJo in this case your TT has only 55-58( depending on the hands listed) percent to win, this is a coin, why risk it?
 
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I figured he was a fish cos I noticed him doing some weird call a couple hands before. But who knows, I might have misinterpreted that.

Ok, noted! I will not do go all in with cards like this again, even against fish. Thanks!
 
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Well weard hands he can play because he is on tillt.

But yes 3bet All in is fish or tilt sign.

Vs 3bet 100BB all in: TT+ AKs
Vs 5bet 100BB all in: KK+ (QQ is near 0 eV so depends on other factors, like how much you alreadi put in pot, reads on oponent you have)
 
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I think TT would be a hand I'm letting go here fairly often with the original opener still left to act behind you, It's very likely that he is on tilt but the opener behind you could have a much stronger hand than what villain would be tilt shoving with. I'd probably start my calling range at JJ+ because while I do think we're ahead of the tilter's range we still want to make a responsible call. We're calling $1.97 to win $2.06 from the pot. So we would need to be ahead of about 50% of villians reasonable Jamming range. I don't think TT makes it in this case as I think AJo would be a reasonable expectation as the bottom of his range here.

Hopefully you won the hand and the guy was on monkey tilt, But I don't think this call is profitable enough in the long term even if you know for a fact that villain is on tilt
 
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