What to need know about 1/2 NLH

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hello.
I decided go to the next level i want start play a 1/2 NLH what i need to know this level cash game...
Now i play 0.25/0.50 cash games ...
What i need to know and maybe some advice about this?
sorry if this question already sometimes be...
 
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The fact that you are asking this question, and that you have another thread where you say you have a problem folding when you know you are beaten means that jumping up to 200nl would probably be a very bad idea.

It sounds like you shouldn't even be playing 50nl tbh.
 
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Your opponents there consider the 1/2 a very low stake.

Books will say you must have at least $200-$300 BR with redeposit if in case. Without plan of reload, Ill say $500 BR.
 
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Your opponents there consider the 1/2 a very low stake.

Books will say you must have at least $200-$300 BR with redeposit if in case. Without plan of reload, Ill say $500 BR.

Wtf. Your bankroll management advice is ridiculous as usual :(
 
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The fact that you are asking this question, and that you have another thread where you say you have a problem folding when you know you are beaten means that jumping up to 200nl would probably be a very bad idea.

It sounds like you shouldn't even be playing 50nl tbh.

this is other story and this not for all my game that is about few episode where cant decide what to do in this hand i dont tell to i am a bad i feel i am a ready go to the 1/2 NHL
 
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Are you winning at 50nl? If so, why not try 100nl first instead of jumping up two levels?
 
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Your opponents there consider the 1/2 a very low stake.

Books will say you must have at least $200-$300 BR with redeposit if in case. Without plan of reload, Ill say $500 BR.

books can lie to you :D
but i know need some nice bankroll to start play in this lvl...
 
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Are you winning at 50nl? If so, why not try 100nl first instead of jumping up two levels?

something i win in this lvl not that i win a lot of money but from table almost always go with +
 
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Yeah sure you can laugh at my BR system but before black friday and after it, I had been there.

A $400 bankroll without reload at 1/2 stake is so small. That figure will not even last in 3 weeks time.
 
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Yeah sure you can laugh at my BR system but before black friday and after it, I had been there.

A $400 bankroll without reload at 1/2 stake is so small. That figure will not even last in 3 weeks time.

Of course it is so small, it's 2 buy-ins.

After that you said "Without plan of reload, Ill say $500 BR."

That's 2.5 buy-ins at 1/2, how can you think this is good bankroll management??
 
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If it is $1/2NL with a buy-in of $200 you want a bankroll of about $4K. Sounds excessive for a $1/$2 game. But we have to take variance into account, also i also seen your post saying you have hard tine folding. I would suggest staying at .25/.50 or moving down to .10/.25. You really need to implement a good BRM. Winning at one stakes and moving up to another without sufficent funds can be a tragedy. Can wipe out your bankroll, has the stakes go up so do the opponnents difficulty...mostly.

P.S. lowest bankroll i would move up to that stake would be $2K but you better have a hell of a win rate and learn when to fold.
 
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Your opponents there consider the 1/2 a very low stake.

Books will say you must have at least $200-$300 BR with redeposit if in case. Without plan of reload, Ill say $500 BR.

What book are reading? CAUSE IT IS THE WRONG ONE LOL. Must be called "How to lose your Bankroll at $1/2 Nl"
 
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If cash game, relate your bankroll with respect to blinds or stakes you want to join.

I would not convert my bankroll to buyins and relate it to blinds or stakes.

For tourneys, it would be buyin with respect to bankroll.
 
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^^ I don't understand what you're trying to say. Why not use number of buyins for cash game BRM? It's the same as using blinds as 1 buyin = 100bb.

Playing 1/2 with $500 is bankroll suicide regardless
 
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If cash game, relate your bankroll with respect to blinds or stakes you want to join.

I would not convert my bankroll to buyins and relate it to blinds or stakes.

For tourneys, it would be buyin with respect to bankroll.

This makes kinda no sense or you just worded it really weird. What do you mean relate your bankroll to respect of blinds and stakes but not the buy-in? The stakes make up the buy-in. So really all you need to know is the buy-in and go from there. Almost anyone will tell you good BRM would be having 20-40 times the buy-in for cash stake you want. So anywhere from 2-4K is good for 1/2NL with 200 buy-in. Just remember that rule of thumb for cash games. 20-40 buyins. 40 is excessive but will help if get coolered.
 
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Let give an example. Usually I write short messages but Im force to write a long one now lol.

Lets say we go to a local poker club and want to play CASH games. There are many stakes to select. Our best selection would be based on the stakes or blinds with respect to our total cash at hand. We would not base our selection on how many buyins we can make throughout the night with respect to our cash right now. Thats cash game bankroll management.
 
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Let give an example. Usually I write short messages but Im force to write a long one now lol.

Lets say we go to a local poker club and want to play CASH games. There are many stakes to select. Our best selection would be based on the stakes or blinds with respect to our total cash at hand. We would not base our selection on how many buyins we can make throughout the night with respect to our cash right now. Thats cash game bankroll management.

You are wording it weird. It is not based on the blinds. Well it is but it isnt. It is based on blinds only because the buy-in. We need to know what max buy-in is because we want to buy in max for best profit. So that being said...once you know the buy-in your bankroll should be roughly between 20-40 times the buy-in. Youre right im not basing my decision on buying in a lot that night. My decision is based on my bankroll and variance. If i lose $200 when I have 2-4K not a big deal. Anything less and it is hurting our bankroll. Youre cash game bankroll is not based on how much money you have in pocket. It should be based on your actual bankroll. You should already know what stakes you plan pn playing and if you can afford it.

TL;DR for cash games, proper BRM you should have 20-40 times the buy-ins at that limit.
 
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TL;DR for cash games, proper BRM you should have 20-40 times the buy-ins at that limit.
Cah as above tournaments usualy about 50 buyins

when he said $500 did he mean 1c/2c. surely not $1$2 unless they are are putting aside $500 for shortstacking and trying the level before moving back
 
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i ask for advice and solution not a critic for latest posts...
but that time need came when i need start go up with stakes...
i just want move up...
 
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If you enter a live poker club, the first thing you would ask are the stakes/blinds. Its not the min or max buyin right away. After you select the stake, then you ask now the min or max buyin. Meaning, your selection is base on blinds with respect to your money you bring in and not on buyins.
 
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i ask for advice and solution not a critic for latest posts...
but that time need came when i need start go up with stakes...
i just want move up...

Move up as your stakes allow it. If you rush it you risk running bust. Like i said all you really need forBRM for cash games is habe 20-40 times the max-buy in for stakes you want to play. Just grind and build up bankroll and keep moving up when bankroll allows it. Also, if you start losing go back down stakes. Dont stay at that limit trying to win money back when you already lost money and now nade it not comfortable to play that limit with our bankroll. My suggestion for you is 40 times the max buy-in just so you dont go bust.
 
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Move up as your stakes allow it. If you rush it you risk running bust. Like i said all you really need forBRM for cash games is habe 20-40 times the max-buy in for stakes you want to play. Just grind and build up bankroll and keep moving up when bankroll allows it. Also, if you start losing go back down stakes. Dont stay at that limit trying to win money back when you already lost money and now nade it not comfortable to play that limit with our bankroll. My suggestion for you is 40 times the max buy-in just so you dont go bust.

ok. thanks for solution a gone try that if nothing does work i go back to my start where i feel comfortable...
 
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