What to look for when picking a table

Getting ready to start out on cash tables...

Should I play 6 handed or full ring?

Also, what do I look for as far as % Plyr/Flop?

I am assuming a higher percentage but wanna make sure I'm heading in the right direction.

I'd say full ring if you're just starting out, generally less variance and more fish than 6max. And yes, hire player per flop is better in general, means there are preflop flatters for you to take on. Playing Over nitty tables (<10%)is like trying extract water from tumbleweeds.

youll benefit more from playing 6 max. its harder as youre in a lot more marginal situations a lot more often, but this means 1. that youll become a better post flop player faster (since you wont just be able to valuebet overpairs and 2p+ anymore) and 2. because youre in more marginal situations more often, there is more room for error by your opponents, therefore imo it is possible to have a greater skill edge than you could in fullring games

I vote for FR until you get the basics down. 6max can be a bit much for me, but you might love it!

Look for tables with a high % of player per flop.

For 6max I look for tables with 25%+ players/flop. Actually I use the filter so that I dont see any tables with less than 20% players/flop in the lobby.

For FR you want to look for tables with at least 15% player/flop.

since shes new to cash, shes going to be a nit. therefore i dont think players to the flop is ideal. you want to filter for big avg pots, so when you pick up a hand youll get paid. once you find tables with big avg pots, then join the ones where lots of people are seeing flops, cos then theres more chance theyll be around to pay you off in a big pot

I suggest starting with FR. The main reason is because the pace of play will be more like what you're already used to from tournaments. For a while at least, you'll have to focus part of your attention on identifying when and why you should do things differently from tournaments. Until this becomes reasonably natural, I'd lean away from adding even more to think about by going to 6max.

As for choosing tables, find out what's most comfortable for you (or least uncomfortable). If you find you're okay with lots of players to the flop and or larger avg pot size, fine. But if you discover you feel better at other types of tables, look for them. It's not like the choice you make now can't be changed as you get used to cash and your game improves.

Psychologically, if limiting your risk is part of why you play tournaments, you might want to look for tables that offer lower variance rather than greater potential profitability. Again, you can change as you get used to cash play.

jchoop said:

youll benefit more from playing 6 max. its harder as youre in a lot more marginal situations a lot more often, but this means 1. that youll become a better post flop player faster (since you wont just be able to valuebet overpairs and 2p+ anymore) and 2. because youre in more marginal situations more often, there is more room for error by your opponents, therefore imo it is possible to have a greater skill edge than you could in fullring games

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can you give an example of good post flop play with different hands/situations

Hulktron said:

can you give an example of good post flop play with different hands/situations

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Poor jchoop needs to write a book for a topic that huge lol...

But hmmm.... When in doubt, fold or bet, never call xD

Hulktron said:

can you give an example of good post flop play with different hands/situations

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How about you give me a hand/situation complete with virtual villain stats (or just post a real hand in HA) and I tell you as best I can what the optimal line is

RodneyC86 said:

Poor jchoop needs to write a book for a topic that huge lol...

But hmmm.... When in doubt, fold or bet, never call xD

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This is really bad advice as a blanket statement IMO. Not even close to always applicable At micros eapecially

jchoop said:

How about you give me a hand/situation complete with virtual villain stats (or just post a real hand in HA) and I tell you as best I can what the optimal line is



This is really bad advice as a blanket statement IMO. Not even close to always applicable At micros eapecially

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Eh? Why not? Either you bet for value or fold when you got nothing or if the fish wakes up. But maybe that's why me winrate is a mediocre 15bb/100 at 2nl? ^^

well for a start because raising will lose you a lot of value in a lot of spots. we let fish spaz. then we also dont bother semibluffing (ie raising) on draws, because he have no fold EQ vs fish but yea thats just a quick 2 reasons that come to my head. sitch dependent obv

jchoop said:

well for a start because raising will lose you a lot of value in a lot of spots. we let fish spaz. then we also dont bother semibluffing (ie raising) on draws, because he have no fold EQ vs fish but yea thats just a quick 2 reasons that come to my head. sitch dependent obv

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Most fish in my experience are passive, yeah there are a few spazzies out there, these i let them hang themselves when I hit tptk+

We seem to have derailed though lol, sorry OP

mines 18bb/100

I like full ring games alot. It gives you a better chance of doubling/tripling up when you get a monster hand.

It all depends what type of player you aspire to be. If I was you I would learn 1 table of 6 max and add more as you get more comfortable.

e-peen swinging about 2nl winrates

I've never even played 2nl, what d'y'all say to that?? Come at me lol

Mines - 0.21bb/100

Schwing Schwing.

From a practical standpoint, for US players (at least on Merge), I'd seriously look at 6-max. Table selection at FR is going to be difficult at times since there often are very few FR tables running at a given stake. 6-max will usually have 3-4x as many tables at any given time.