Originally Posted by Marginal
To be fair Im a live player and you are peddling leak busters in your signature so obv we will not agree on this.
And i didnt change my position, i clearly said we shouldnt be aiming to do anything x% of the time.
You cant look at someone who says i 3 bet 5% and say, no you should 3 bet 8%. The more effective way to analyse something is to look at more granular details to see where things have gone wrong.
What do i know though.
Actually, with proper sample size you can say this. But again, those stat ranges are indicators of play that is missing a higher EV. Then you're correct, you want to look at hands where that person missed potential profitable 3-betting situations and analyze them individually. This person is opening 35% and folding to 3-bets 60%, why did you not 3-bet here? And so on. Then you use that stat range as a tool for learning where more profitable 3-bet bluffing
I was trying be gracious in saying that you can change your position, because what you were in essence saying was that OP was a fool for posting 50k stat samples, and everyone responding was wasting their time. I don't think that was your intention. Clearly everyone that's responding in this thread recognizes that value that stat ranges bring to online analysis.
But I understand what you were trying to say. You don't want to force trying to play a particular way to meet a stat. You want to approach learning by understanding why a play is best. I believe most online players understand this and aren't ruled by stats. They just use them as clues to help them zero in on weaker areas of their game. And if you think about it, it's a pretty smart approach.