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The past few weeks I switched over to FR on Bovada and have noticed there tends to be a good number of min-buy in short stackers. I've never understood this strategy. Yeah i get that they think they win "easier" by shoving wider ranges and doubling up , but it just seems like it's "gambooling." Which obviously we want at our tables.
But I can't help but get frustrated sometimes watching these short stackers online come in, shove every other hand, get lucky on the river a few times and then leave. Or they shove more selectively but end up ruining odds because they'll shove their remaining 20BB stack into a 4BB pot over and over. Then when they do get a big stack over time like 300BB (if they don't hit n run) then they STILL spaz shove the entire stack into a pot like 5-15x smaller than their stack. I watched one player do this over and over even as his stack got over like 300BB. I asked him why he shoved like $45 into a $5 pot and he goes "well you folded didn't you and I'm obviously winning." He continued to shove into small pots. Long term we want this and long term I imagine these players are losing players so I wonder why they bother.
I guess this is just a little rant. I watched a bunch of SSers last night jam pots over and over and over. Some busted but a few built massive stacks. I don't feel like SSer buy in is a strategy, I feel like it kind of takes away from the skill of poker and makes the game less enjoyable for the majority of players who buy in full and want to play poker not bingo.
Sometimes I love them because when there's big pots they have to fold or shove and it's like free money. But majority of time they're like a thorn in the side of the average stacks; you can't give them bad odds usually, you can't bluff them, and you can't defend good hands against big draws because they often have massive odds to call.
What do you guys think?
But I can't help but get frustrated sometimes watching these short stackers online come in, shove every other hand, get lucky on the river a few times and then leave. Or they shove more selectively but end up ruining odds because they'll shove their remaining 20BB stack into a 4BB pot over and over. Then when they do get a big stack over time like 300BB (if they don't hit n run) then they STILL spaz shove the entire stack into a pot like 5-15x smaller than their stack. I watched one player do this over and over even as his stack got over like 300BB. I asked him why he shoved like $45 into a $5 pot and he goes "well you folded didn't you and I'm obviously winning." He continued to shove into small pots. Long term we want this and long term I imagine these players are losing players so I wonder why they bother.
I guess this is just a little rant. I watched a bunch of SSers last night jam pots over and over and over. Some busted but a few built massive stacks. I don't feel like SSer buy in is a strategy, I feel like it kind of takes away from the skill of poker and makes the game less enjoyable for the majority of players who buy in full and want to play poker not bingo.
Sometimes I love them because when there's big pots they have to fold or shove and it's like free money. But majority of time they're like a thorn in the side of the average stacks; you can't give them bad odds usually, you can't bluff them, and you can't defend good hands against big draws because they often have massive odds to call.
What do you guys think?