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Here we go, it´s a NL500 ZOOM 6max game at pokerstars:

PokerStars - $5 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

orlovgraf (BTN): $510.92 (VPIP: 32.58, PFR: 24.72, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00)
snow876 ( SB ): $537.60 (VPIP: 25.64, PFR: 21.79, 3Bet Preflop: 18.06)
Hero( BB ): $876.72
nanonoko (UTG): $1,102.68 (VPIP: 32.46, PFR: 26.85, 3Bet Preflop: 11.22)
ABC POKERS (MP): $1,034.14 (VPIP: 27.70, PFR: 21.37, 3Bet Preflop: 9.04)
african07781 (CO): $1,252.10 (VPIP: 21.03, PFR: 16.38, 3Bet Preflop: 8.47)

snow876 posts SB $2.50, Hero posts BB $5.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $7.50) Hero has

nanonoko raises to $15.00, ABC POKERS calls $15.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $10.00

Flop: ($47.50, 3 players)
Hero checks, nanonoko bets $35.00, ABC POKERS calls $35.00, Hero raises to $104.23, fold, ABC POKERS calls $69.23

Turn: ($290.96, 2 players)
Hero checks, ABC POKERS checks

River: ($290.96, 2 players)
Hero bets $188.92, ABC POKERS raises to $914.91 and is all-in, Hero !?

ABC POKERS shoves his entire roll into the middle which are nearly 200 BB. Would you be? Would you still call? If so, why? If fold, why? Would you have played the hand any different at any street (for example preflop where I just called), also including bet-sizes?
 
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I would squeeze pre, nanonoko will def get it in with TT and AK.

as played check call flop.

as played call river, we have a bout.
 
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I would probably call.

Highly doubt he has QQ or AA or he would've re-raised preflop. In my opinion, the only hand he realistically could have that would beat you would be AQ.
 
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Fold because you dont beat anything. AQ , QJ has you beat and he wont be bluffing with this sizing after calling your flop raise.AQ would play exactly the same.
 
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I would probably call.

Highly doubt he has QQ or AA or he would've re-raised preflop. In my opinion, the only hand he realistically could have that would beat you would be AQ.
Bingo for the last part. I do not agree with the calling part. The AQ is the only hand that makes sense because it is the absolute nuts here. It beats QJ, JJ, KT, KQ. I am not a high stake player but this is the kind of hand that i cannot see anyone do crazy things like a big bluff . Also i would be scared if i knew my opponent has the AQ unless i had it so a shove is out of the question with another hand or a worse FH.
 
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X/C river line works very well with firing the turn. Because we didn't bet turn (for some bizarre reason), betting the river might be better. This is well above my limit so I can't say for sure, I'd still be X/C'ing though.
 
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I would have gone all in on the flop , because the full house is not a weak hand lol
The other player can only beat you with pair of Q's in hand , Aces, J and Q or Q and A...

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I would call here, but I wouldn't be surprised to be beat some of the time in a spot like this. Also I'm 3 betting this preflop a vast majority of the time.
 
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I think I would fold. The underfull might be good, but I would rather lose a smallish to medium sized pot than get stacked which seems more likely as played. That said I have never played over $100nl and I nit up in spots like this.
 
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not folding a boat may be beat but could also be facing a two pair hand like AJ or possibly something like KQ that thinks trips is best if its AQ say nice hand and move on ........scorp
 
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1. Move wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down in stakes
2. 3-bet pre/get it in vs. Nanonoko
3. bet turn
4. as played fold river imo
 
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Hi. This is my very first comment on a poker hand ever.
Since you called the pre-flop raise just keep calling, don't re-raise once you hit the nuts. Get to the river with Jacks full and say thank you or or nice hand if they show AQ. I have to say in a cash game I would have re-raised at least 8x in that position pre-flop and with that board I would have been in big trouble too.
 
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I personally would have to call this bet, I mean there is nothing besides QJ/AQ that could be in his hand QJ very unlikely since you have JJ in yours, and AQ is a possibility but slim once again, so I call..

Plz tell me you called


As for your 2nd question, I don't actually mind the way the hand was played, at all, I think all lines are fine as played call the river plz
 
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I've subbed this thread because I wasn't sure what to think about this hand, but the more I think about it, the more I believe you should make a hero fold here. Yeah, there are only a few hands that beat you, but the problem is all of those hands are well within almost anyone's range.
 
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The cards that are most likely to be in his hand are K 10 for the nut Straight (based on card availability); A Q would be the second most likely hand, Q J would be third, AA is next, and fifth would be QQ for quads. He doesn't necessarily have to be 3betting AA or QQ pre since he didn't know you'd be coming along and he would have had position on nanonoko the entire hand.
Since you didn't bet the turn I don't think I like the river bet once a complete blank comes out. He obviously called your flop raise with "something." That something was either an OES draw or a flush draw which you will beat at showdown (or AA hoping you don't have trips or a good draw). If you check river as well he'll almost certainly bet it without going all-in and you could comfortably call with your under full. If on the other hand he does have Aces full or Queens full, his river raise makes perfect sense and I would be hard-pressed to call any competent player (I would have to strongly consider calling a maniac or a fish).
Had you bet the turn and just got called then you might have been committed on the river either way because of pot size. As played, if you're checking the turn then I would have just check/called a decent river bet.
 
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I've subbed this thread because I wasn't sure what to think about this hand, but the more I think about it, the more I believe you should make a hero fold here. Yeah, there are only a few hands that beat you, but the problem is all of those hands are well within almost anyone's range.
I like this post. The big problem here is that it is so deep.
When you have the nuts in a hand like this you have to go for maximum value. The opponent will call or not no matter the size of the reraise. At the moment of the reraise the bell will ring anyway for this good players.
The fact that he is not afraid of a JJ, QJ even AQ (from BB are more possible hands than from MP) means only one thing.
I do not know how good is this player but it is possible that he could be trying to trap nanoku with AA or QQ?
Again. It is possible that the Hero could be the fish at this table? I am not insulting. Just asking because I do not know how often do you play at these stakes.
 
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I think that nobody go all-in with more than $1000 if he is not sure that he will get the money. For my opinion you should go fold because there are very possibility to he made better full from yours like QJ,AQ or maybe AA, but I am not so sure that he had AA, I think that he had AQ.
 
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1. Move wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down in stakes
2. 3-bet pre/get it in vs. Nanonoko
3. bet turn
4. as played fold river imo

He's not hero. Analyzing this hand is part of a contest to win a ticket for the PS sunday millions (every quality entrant also receives a share of whatever payout is earned) and he used you guys to help him with his entry.
 
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He's not hero. Analyzing this hand is part of a contest to win a ticket for the PS sunday millions (every quality entrant also receives a share of whatever payout is earned) and he used you guys to help him with his entry.


If this is true, then you are a scammy cheat OP. State your intentions.


Douchebag.....
 
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He's not hero. Analyzing this hand is part of a contest to win a ticket for the PS sunday millions (every quality entrant also receives a share of whatever payout is earned) and he used you guys to help him with his entry.
In that case...

OP, perfectly played, snap river.
 
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