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Ok i dont know how to convert a hand here. However i am playing on pokerstars.fr NL10 and a new player joins my table he is 2 tabling and buys in for 80 big blinds.

villain €8 BTN
Hero €11.21 SB AJo
Player x €10.45 BB

Villain raises to .30
Hero calls
BB calls

Flop Jh 3h Ts (pot .90)

Hero checks
BB checks
Villain Bets .40
Hero raises to €1.40
BB folds
Villain calls

Turn Ac (pot €3.70)

Hero bets €2.40
Villain calls

River 6h

Board Jh 3h Ts Ac 6h (pot €8.50)

Villain left with €3.75

What do you do?
 
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IMO you put in the rest, if you check he surely shoves to at least rep the flush, question is if you check and he shoves are you going to fold giving him credit for the flush?

If your not going to lay down top 2 on the river to a 40% pot shove, then best to put it in and leave the pressure on the villain (who is obv going to call if he has the flush but could still call with worse like JT).
 
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I didn't know there was one and thank you.

Bluffmeallin I had the same thought process as you that if i check he pushes all in with everything that beats me and i must call, yet if i push all in he can still make a bad call off with a worse two pair or some strange top pair or over pair.

I pushed he called with 58hh
 
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I didn't know there was one and thank you.

Bluffmeallin I had the same thought process as you that if i check he pushes all in with everything that beats me and i must call, yet if i push all in he can still make a bad call off with a worse two pair or some strange top pair or over pair.

I pushed he called with 58hh
UL, I also had the thought of a 3bet pre however it would be a thin 3-bet considering the bb was still to act and you would be OOP although 3-bet pre was almost my first suggestion of how it could be played differently.

Then Obv given the board if it got there a c-bet of 3/4 the pot and same on the turn, obv if he hasn't gone away he certainly paid a huge price to hit the draw that he did and we would be making the right move there to make it a winning play in the long-run against the flush chasers.
 
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Unlucky but you played it well. He made a bad call on the turn imo and got rewarded. You definetely cant check the river. I dont think ever...
 
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UL, I also had the thought of a 3bet pre however it would be a thin 3-bet considering the bb was still to act and you would be OOP although 3-bet pre was almost my first suggestion of how it could be played differently.

Then Obv given the board if it got there a c-bet of 3/4 the pot and same on the turn, obv if he hasn't gone away he certainly paid a huge price to hit the draw that he did and we would be making the right move there to make it a winning play in the long-run against the flush chasers.

I did think about 3 betting pre flop but the guy opening was an unknown and the big blind was a bit of a calling station so the problem is i am doomed to play out of position with a hand that if i am lucky is going to be a 1 pair type hand against 2 opponents as when the big blind calls like he would a lot the button comes along too.

But never mind these things happened just wanted to know what you would do on the river!
 
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Unlucky but you played it well. He made a bad call on the turn imo and got rewarded. You definetely cant check the river. I dont think ever...

Thanks, he did call a lot on the turn to catch his draw i guess. I just need to look at the result in this instance less. Thank you also for answering what to do on the river!
 
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When you have top pair- top kicker on the flop vs an aggressor and having a color draw is a hard hand. Many times you think have the best hand and maybe not. In addition, the project gives you the ability to connect or bluff to your opponent. How to play the hand depends greatly on the range of fold of your opponent. In NL10 is complicated. In higher limits can be push preflop or on the flop.
 
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It would be great if we had any history on villain even if it was a couple of hands. Without knowing how much villain thinks it becomes a hard decision.

With a decent player on that river when you push you are mostly only going to get called by a better hand. A lot of the draws hit on the turn or river so your bluffing range has to be small compared to your value range. So by shoving all in you would essentially turning your hand into a bluff. In that case I would check the river. If he bets all in on the river once again you are put into a tough spot. But, at least by checking you are giving him a chance to bluff or try to value bet where he should not. Folding would be really hard because of the pot odds you are getting.

My above decision making process is only for a thinking player. This guy does not sound to good and especially after seeing what hand he showed up with. I would still probably check call to encourage a desperation bluff or a bad value bet.
 
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Why are we check raising the flop after raising pre?
 
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Yeah was a tough one i think its 6 of one half a dozen of the other!
 
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