What % is considered 'tight'?

I've read alot of posts about playing TAG vs. LAG, etc.

My question is what do most people here consider to be tight?

My stats consistently show me seeing about 30% of flops. Usually under 25% when not in the blinds, but I play on micro limits where many times I get to see the BB for free so that brings up my % a bit. I'm very selective in early position but loosen up significantly at the CO and button.

I consider myself to be a tight player, but I've seen some people with stats showing that they only see 10-15% of flops. Are these people just extra tight? Or is my game a little looser than I thought?

Thanks,

Toad

Are these Poker tracker stats or just what the site is telling you? A VP$IP over 20% is generally no longer considered tight (assuming full ring, not 6 max). Extra tight, to me, would be the guys under 10%.

Those are stats from the site on a full ring game (or mostly full...7-8 players sometimes). I haven't bought Poker Tracker yet so not sure what VP$IP is.

Go download the beta of PTv3. It's free right now and you can use it fully until the final release comes out (normally the trial is only good for 1000 hands). VP$IP is voluntarily put $ in pot, meaning you weren't given a free chance to see the flop from the BB. ChuckTs has a thread with the link to download PT3 somewhere around here and there are several posts with the lingo (like VP$IP) as well.

My VP$IP is 44% from PT. My winrate is 3.4BB/100. How can I improve?

Win more, lose less, read CC.

44% is high for most people. Having said that some of the top players in the world play more hands. You probably just need to be more selective preflop and stay out of pots with marginal hands.

Thanks! Just downloaded it.

Looks like it's been in beta for awhile, but if it works as well as everyone says it should be great.

WVHillbilly said:

Win more, lose less, read CC.

44% is high for most people. Having said that some of the top players in the world play more hands. You probably just need to be more selective preflop and stay out of pots with marginal hands.

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What's CC?

Deathwish238 said:

What's CC?

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What site are you currently reading?

lol...funny thing is that I had to ask my gf what she thought that question meant...I need more beer

i read an article were the tight players play only 20% of their hands.. that is a real tight player

I recommend playing as many hands as you feel comfortable with. If you play more hands your higher value hands move up in value as you'll get more action on them. I think it's more important how many hands you play by position than how many you play in general. You can play some pretty bad hands from late position profitably.

KeepBlinkin said:

i read an article were the tight players play only 20% of their hands.. that is a real tight player

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Actually no it isn't. I would consider someone at 20% to be a somewhat tight player but hardly very tight or "real tight".


However - and this is important - you do need some context. Are we talking about tournaments? Full ring? 6-max? Heads-Up? Some combination of the above?


My first statement above would apply to full ring (9/10 max cash games). So in that context you will see players with vp$ip's of anywhere from 3-4% (this is ultra-tight..basically nits who only play AA/KK) up to as high as high 90s (don't laugh..i've seen fish with vp$ip's in the mid 90s..and that's over a sizeable sample).

Good, solid and fairly standard tag play will probably not see you getting over 20% and even 20% is slightly high. I would start to consider people with 10% or less to be very tight, 10%-~17.5% (roughly...limits could affect the upper bound here as well) to be fairly standard tight range, if you start getting over that and you are getting a little bit too loose to be called tight I think. So I'm gonna call the 17.5%-25% crowd "tightish".

Start getting over 25% and it's hard to call you tight at all. Of course there is a huge difference between Tight/Passive and Tight/Aggressive and where the aggression begins and ends (preflop? postflop? all the way to the river?). Point being I might call someone at 25% "tightish" who is simply looking to get in preflop cheaply and then only play hands they connect with solidly after that. I would not call someone tight in any way shape or form at 25% who plays every hand aggressively all the way to the river.

12-15% on Full Ring is considered Tight. Above that i dont think you would be playing a premium strategey at most lower/micro stakes.

Admitadely i play 16% of hands so meh?

After about 1000 hands with Poker Tracker I'm showing my vp$ip around 19% in full ring games.

I'm also showing that I tend to leak a little money in late position by loosening up a bit too much and looking at some hands that I shouldn't.

Thanks again for the recommendation.

ChuckTs said:

What site are you currently reading?

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busted out laughing lmao ROFL....

baconn said:

My VP$IP is 44% from PT. My winrate is 3.4BB/100. How can I improve?

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cut your VP$IP in half.. or tighten up your game