What cash table level should I play at with a BR of $50?

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Topic. I've had enough with seeing people donk up in SnG's and wanna try my hand at cash tables for a while. What should I start at? 1-2nl? 2-4nl?
 
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2nl until you have at least $100.
 
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Ok i'm about as level headed as they come since iv'e been grown but this is too much Fox.
I very much against banning posters.This as been a little too much for me even
 
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Ok i'm about as level headed as they come since iv'e been grown but this is too much Fox.
I very much against banning posters.This as been a little too much for me even

What?
 
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Man your trolling...right?
a lot of people including WV have gave you some solid advice.It might seem sharp but it's solid advice non the less.
It comes across like your just ****ing around and not wanting help.
 
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Man your trolling...right?
a lot of people including WV have gave you some solid advice.It might seem sharp but it's solid advice non the less.
It comes across like your just ****ing around and not wanting help.

Why would I be ASKING for help if I don't want it?
 
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Well, I'll try devoting some of my BR to cash games and see if it goes any better.
 
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Why would I be ASKING for help if I don't want it?

Why would you ignore it?
WV has gave you VERY solid advice.Keep it in mind it may seem harsh, but the truth sometimes is. On a side note i give him the up most respect as a man because he has honered his word with me every time on side bets etc.Actually i trust him on money bets etc. than i do my real world friends.
 
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Why would I be ASKING for help if I don't want it?

So you claimed to have went busto by losing 40 BI in a row playing 6 man SNGs, but that was all a lie and you have $50? I don't understand, why lie?

Anyways:

Things fish do that you shouldn't:
They play a wide range of hands. You should only play pockets, face cards, sometimes suited connectors, and use position whenever possible.
They limp a lot. Raise.
They chase. Don't chase unless you are really, really priced in.
They call a lot. It is better to be the aggressor. You should be the one betting more than the one calling.
They play one table at a time. Put in volume if you want to win, multiple tables reduces variance.
They don't know what a HUD is. You should be making decision's based on yours.
They don't use good BR management. You should play at least 20 BI deep at least at all times.
They tilt. Don't.
They deposit. You should withdraw.
 
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Why would you ignore it?
WV has gave you VERY solid advice.Keep it in mind it may seem harsh, but the truth sometimes is. On a side note i give him the up most respect as a man because he has honered his word with me every time on side bets etc.Actually i trust him on money bets etc. than i do my real world friends.
Lol. He didn't say anything wrong ITT. I appreciate the kind words but honestly he just asked for advice and if he actually starts listening to ALL the good advice he's been given he may just avoid going busto.
 
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Lol. He didn't say anything wrong ITT. I appreciate the kind words but honestly he just asked for advice and if he actually starts listening to ALL the good advice he's been given he may just avoid going busto.
Yeah the other 2 threads he started and the way this one started made me jump to the conclusion plus
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Lol. He didn't say anything wrong ITT. I appreciate the kind words but honestly he just asked for advice and if he actually starts listening to ALL the good advice he's been given he may just avoid going busto.

I'm trying, but having downswings of 5 or 6 BI's in SnG's because of suckouts doesn't help. And yeah, they are suckouts. I've made a few questionable plays, but I almost always get my money in good. But when all the cards fell against you...
 
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Getting your money in good all most all the time in cash is great.If your getting your money in good all the time in SNG's thats bad.It means you haven't got a full grasp of the shove fold concept yet.Maybe PO,or Wizzm could help ya with that.
 
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Getting your money in good all most all the time in cash is great.If your getting your money in good all the time in SNG's thats bad.It means you haven't got a full grasp of the shove fold concept yet.Maybe PO,or Wizzm could help ya with that.

Shove/fold concept?
 
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Post some all in hands in the tourney HA section of the forum.
Post some of your problems in the monthly tourney section of the forum etc.
Yeah it just means sometimes given the action if it folds around to you,you should fold or shove any two cards(atc) depending on your M.
 
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I don't fully understand what you mean, that's something I already take advantage of given the table action. But something to note, if I fall into the orange or red M-zone, I'm pretty much getting it all-in preflop. I usually don't play a flop in orange/red unless I'm getting damn good odds or I'm in a position to trap one player with a big hand.
 
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What he's saying is that you can't be shoving wide enough or you'd be getting called by better hands fairly often. You know like it folds to you in LP with 12bbs and you shove K4s but get called by AK in the SB.
 
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I don't fully understand what you mean, that's something I already take advantage of given the table action. But something to note, if I fall into the orange or red M-zone, I'm pretty much getting it all-in preflop. I usually don't play a flop in orange/red unless I'm getting damn good odds or I'm in a position to trap one player with a big hand.
I hate to give you bad info ,as i'm not a mtt/sng grinder but it goes something like how close you are to the bubble/icm blah blah blah.Stack vs blind ratio etc.
say your in a 9 person sng 6 left blinds are 75/150 you have 1700 you get dealt 84 given how the blinds calling ranges are you can shove an it's + ev.
 
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What he's saying is that you can't be shoving wide enough or you'd be getting called by better hands fairly often. You know like it folds to you in LP with 12bbs and you shove K4s but get called by AK in the SB.

In that range I shove with AK, AQ, AJ or A10 if its suited, KQ suited QJ suited, J10 suited (favorite hand), and any pair that's 8's or higher. That's my general range in yellowM.
 
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In that range I shove with AK, AQ, AJ or A10 if its suited, KQ suited QJ suited, J10 suited (favorite hand), and any pair that's 8's or higher. That's my general range in yellowM.
No wonder your getting killed this should be mid to high end of your calling range..................................
 
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And that's what JB was saying you're not shoving wide enough in that spot.
 
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