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Villain stats were 41/10/5. Played very donkish. Im aware its an aggressive PFR from me.

full tilt poker Game #34060895736: Table Vast (6 max) - NL Hold'em - $0.02/$0.05 - 12:41:31 ET - 2014/03/26
Seat 1: AMMAROOK ($6.38)
Seat 2: akaRobbo ($5)
Seat 3: misakhe ($5.47)
Seat 4: alex661606 ($2.20)
Seat 5: gigenieks ($6.94), is sitting out
Seat 6: isaynoway ($3.50)
misakhe posts the small blind of $0.02
alex661606 posts the big blind of $0.05
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to akaRobbo [8s 9c]
isaynoway folds
AMMAROOK has 15 seconds left to act
AMMAROOK folds
akaRobbo raises to $0.12
misakhe calls $0.10
alex661606 folds
*** FLOP *** [6h 8d 9s] (Total Pot: $0.29, 2 Players)
misakhe bets $0.29
akaRobbo has 15 seconds left to act
akaRobbo calls $0.29
*** TURN *** [6h 8d 9s] [4d] (Total Pot: $0.87, 2 Players)
misakhe bets $0.87
akaRobbo calls $0.87
*** RIVER *** [6h 8d 9s 4d] [3h] (Total Pot: $2.61, 2 Players)
misakhe bets $4.19, and is all in
akaRobbo has 15 seconds left to act
akaRobbo has requested TIME
akaRobbo calls $3.72, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $0.47 returned to misakhe
*** SHOW DOWN ***
misakhe shows [3s 3c] three of a kind, Threes
akaRobbo mucks
misakhe wins the pot ($9.55) with three of a kind, Threes

I don't get how he's shoving the river there? If he doesn't shove then I might have folded. Confused the hell out of me this hand, any thoughts or opinions on it?
 
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Micros. Yesterday someon bet twice the pot with an overpair on me lol. Made no sense but it worked for him, i thought he wiffed with AK but maybe that is what he wantsd me to think? Doubt it but maybe lol
 
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He's shoving for value. Ppl play a lot different at the micros
 
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He's shoving for value.

I guess he is? But doesn't take any notice that I called two pot size bets, meaning I could easily have a bigger set than him and there's straight draws out there too.
 
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I guess he is? But doesn't take any notice that I called two pot size bets, meaning I could easily have a bigger set than him and there's straight draws out there too.

Level 1 thinking, he might of not even noticed the straight draw out there.

His thought process "Omg I got 3 3's ALL IN!"
 
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looks prity simple to me, he took the hump thinking u were blind stealing and thought he was in the old blind stealing war, prob had u for Arag Krag and banged out a bet to see if u had missed, thinking maybe he was ahead and you were chasing,then bangs out a bigger one to make u fold, then when u called he might of even took u for your 2 pair as 8,9 suited is a well kown button hand,[i know urs wasent suited ] then he catches his 3, he sees the red mist and bang hes allinn,.. maybe not the right way to play but what is right and what we do is very diffrent, he was in a blind stealing war,. just my view,im still really new to the game so i prob got it all wrong... good luck..
 
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I guess he is? But doesn't take any notice that I called two pot size bets, meaning I could easily have a bigger set than him and there's straight draws out there too.
Seems like a two-way street. How much notice did you take of the possibility he was betting like that with a flopped set or straight?
 
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Seems like a two-way street. How much notice did you take of the possibility he was betting like that with a flopped set or straight?

Certainly possible, but I didn't think even this guy would pot size having flopped a straight. Also calling with 75 or T7 from the small blind seemed unlikely, even for him.

The river is what did it for me, having ruled out a straight, shoving with a set just made no sense to me at all, so had to call him.
 
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The river is what did it for me, having ruled out a straight, shoving with a set just made no sense to me at all, so had to call him.
Again, look from the other side. If he ruled out your having a straight, does shoving his set on the river still look as senseless? Note I'm not defending the shove, just wondering if you might have considered more than you seem to have.
 
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Level 1 thinking, he might of not even noticed the straight draw out there.

His thought process "Omg I got 3 3's ALL IN!"

Yup...OMG I hit....SHOVE!!!!!
 
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looks prity simple to me, he took the hump thinking u were blind stealing and thought he was in the old blind stealing war, prob had u for Arag Krag and banged out a bet to see if u had missed, thinking maybe he was ahead and you were chasing,then bangs out a bigger one to make u fold, then when u called he might of even took u for your 2 pair as 8,9 suited is a well kown button hand,[i know urs wasent suited ] then he catches his 3, he sees the red mist and bang hes allinn,.. maybe not the right way to play but what is right and what we do is very diffrent, he was in a blind stealing war,. just my view,im still really new to the game so i prob got it all wrong... good luck..

Possible but highly unlikely:p . Sorry, I play these guys all the time as do you. Seriously bad play by villain but it worked out for him (I would have called too btw)
 
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i think you should play this one more agressive
i wonder what would have happened if you reraised after the flop? probably he were going to fold with 33, but once you let him through the river and he got the set, his shoved was quite obvious
 
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On that board I am making a large re raise on the flop. 2 pair is never a great hand to trap with.
 
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The thing is, when most fish make sets they will ignore the board very often and trust me, they don't give much thought what you might be holding. I had a villain betting big when he made a set of deuces on the river on a 4 diamond board. Was more than happy to get it in with red aces.
 
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Even though the flop was sort of connected or wet i think you would have been better off raising a sizeable amount to his donk bet. Villian just got lucky on the turn and he knew he had the best hand so he makes a decent bet on the turn and when you call his turn bet that gives him the information that you do not have airball and that your hand has some strength also so he goes for the maximum value on the river to make it look like a bluff (which obviously worked / you could have folded the river though).

So what did the villian do right and what went wrong ??

1. He played well and donk bet the flop. Many players would just check fold the flop. So since he got called he got some information and he could have folded the turn knowing that there was a good chance his under pair was behind. What happens next ??

2. He gets double lucky. How ??
(i) Well the first is when he does not get raised by your slowplay/cautious play
(ii) BOOM !! he catches his dream card and turns a set.

3. He plays well again and does not slow play and bets the turn.

4. Makes another brilliant play on the river and make it look like a bluff.

Conclusion :- "played well, got lucky, played well again".
 
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Even though the flop was sort of connected or wet i think you would have been better off raising a sizeable amount to his donk bet. Villian just got lucky on the turn and he knew he had the best hand so he makes a decent bet on the turn and when you call his turn bet that gives him the information that you do not have airball and that your hand has some strength also so he goes for the maximum value on the river to make it look like a bluff (which obviously worked / you could have folded the river though).

So what did the villian do right and what went wrong ??

1. He played well and donk bet the flop. Many players would just check fold the flop. So since he got called he got some information and he could have folded the turn knowing that there was a good chance his under pair was behind. What happens next ??

2. He gets double lucky. How ??
(i) Well the first is when he does not get raised by your slowplay/cautious play
(ii) BOOM !! he catches his dream card and turns a set.

3. He plays well again and does not slow play and bets the turn.

4. Makes another brilliant play on the river and make it look like a bluff.

Conclusion :- "played well, got lucky, played well again".

Actually he rivers the set and was 3 barrel bluffing, I do agree that the slow play kind of screwed hero and that he should of been more aggressive on that board regardless of the results.
 
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The third barrel was not a bluff though ... but his turn bet does give an impression that he might have pulled the trigger on the river anyways !!

And yes i kind of misread the hand ... sorry for that !! But yes you slow played one street too many !!
 
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