Can we re-raise in this situation ??

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Hi,
Here is a situation that got us all arguing about last week:

This is a 'No-Limit' home game.

Blinds are 50,100.

'Player A' raises to 400 chips (has pocket aces).
'Player B' calls the 400 bet made by 'Player A' (has KQ).
'Player C' the short-stack goes all-in with 410 chips (has pocket nines).

action gets back to 'Player A' - he now want to re-raise and go all-in, so he can push 'Player B' out of the pot and stay alone with 'Player C'.

The question is - can 'Player A' go all-in here ???
He claims he can, because 'Player C' raised him (even though it was just a 10-chip incomplete raise).

We all said - he can't re-raise, because no-one had raised over him a complete raise.
He says in 'No-Limit' you can do whatever you want - someone raise you - you can re-raise, no matter how much was raised...

Who is correct here ???
 
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I have had hands online where I can't reraise preflop anymore and IIRC the situation was similar to the above where a shortie had put the rest of his stack in but it wasn't even the min-raise.

So I think player A can't reraise.

Unrelated but if I was player A I would want to keep player B in the pot, not 'push him out' :D
 
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The all in push of 410 is technically an under-raise, so I gather you'd have to call. I believe you're able to shove, though.. Someone correct me if that's wrong, I don't often play with/against short stacks, so my word isn't too reliable.

Likelihood is the money would be going in on the flop with Aces anyway, especially if it's a nice one.
 
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Because you were the opener, and the All In raise is an under raise you are normally restricted to a call ... if you are playing in a W.S.O.P tourney. Players waiting to act may raise. The rules about this do seem to vary from place to place.

Yep, I'm a nerd who read the rules this year.
 
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He is not allowed to raise since he already acted once and the last player to act (Player C) could not make a legitimate raise. He (Player C) is, of course, allowed to go all-in since he hasn't acted yet. Player A can only call (or fold, which would be rediculous, of course).
 
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In tournament play, an allin does not reopen betting unless it is at least a full raise. (i.e. In your example, player C would have to have at least 700 for his allin to reopen the betting)
 
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