Can we fold a set on the flop hu in a 3bet pot!?

Eff: 100bbs deep

Hero raises 2.2bbs from button with 10d10h villain (bad reg) in the BB 3bets to 8bbs.


Flop: Ac jc 10s


BB cbets 8bbs Hero raises to 22.5bbs villain re-raises 40bbs.

Hero?

Smells like aces maybe JJ or the old KQ almost always. But I can't really lay down a set in a 3bet pot on the flop can I? If I call to due to his range being more weighted towards KQ (assuming he 3bets pre all combos at a almost 100% frequency) and a blank turn comes he shoves, then what? I'm already "committed" and I called a 3bet on the flop in a 3bet pot so just to fold on a the turn is not a line I'm interested in taking. Unless I had a flush draw.

If I re-jam he calls with better maybe AJ possibly A10 if he plays those hands this way aswell.


Just accept it as a cooler?

Can't fold, your hand is too strong.

Yea my hands absolute strength is strong but relative to my opponents range I don't think it is. https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com › General Poker Strategy › Beginners Questions

Thanks for the useless answer without any reasoning behind though.

He could have been overvalueing a two pair? AJ perhaps? How likely is it that he has a set? Not very likely.

How aggressive is your opponent in general?

His reraise bet size is also a bit weird. It feels weak.

Another possibility is that he has a straight. But yeah, that is just a cold deck. It doesn't happen very often.

I would be tempted to call him down and see what he will do on the turn.

in my opinion i cant fold here he can be Ax or 2 pairs , set is too strong on flop , you can get full house so in my opinion you cant fold here

I won't be able to fold here unless I really really know who I'm playing against.

The betting on all accounts seems to be on target. You seem to have his range down. Tuff call. I'm going to probably go broke here but I have a hard time laying down trips. Only cause I know if I'm wrong then I cost myself that double-up. You're only getting called with a better hand if you shove

'Too strong' always is already on relative strength scale, never ever in absolute strength scale. So you discredited his opinion with wrong closure. Absolute only matters pre and even then it's only relative given opponent.

braveslice said:

'Too strong' always is already on relative strength scale, never ever in absolute strength scale. So you discredited his opinion with wrong closure. Absolute only matters pre and even then it's only relative given opponent.

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https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/...-hand-strength-relative-hand-strength-991563/

no way is very difficullt,no many hands can beat you.....

high stakes 2+2 answer

djevans :

You can fold if you want but probably not ideal


board: AcJcTs
Hand equity Wins Ties
TdTh 58.32% 18,299 356
JJ+, Axkc, AxQc, AxJx, KxQx, Qc9c 41.68% 13,025 356


I don't think you are fairing as well as in this demonstration, but if he has any AT+ combo/ flush draw combo, or 2 pair combo you shouldn't fold.

If you fold and he shows you AA that isn't exactly good poker. You just got lucky and probably made a -EV decision.

Now all that could go out the window if he is the biggest nit in the world, and only 3bets AA as you have never seen him 3bet AK or JJ. But nothing in your post suggests that, you just said he is a bad reg.



I did discount flush draws and two pairs because I think he would just jam to achieve maximum fold equity and no Qc9c in his range. And when he says JJ+ I don't know if he included QQ and KK (hope not). But when I run a range of AA,JJ,KQs,AsKs,AsQs,KQo,AdKc,AhKc,AsKc,AdQc,AhQc,AsQc are equity stands at 40%.

So total pot 130.5 (assuming villains raise is a shove) and we have to call 69.5 (the remainder of are stack) we get 69.5/(130.5+69.5)= 34% equity required to make this call ev+. Therefore this is a call unless you remove all the AQ and AK from villains range. Case closed.

the first equity calc that djevans did should say 58% not 41.68%.