Two Quick Stat Questions

1) Rank the following stats in order of which converges quickest to its true value, from fastest to slowest.

-Aggression Factor
-Aggression Frequency
-Fold to flop c-bet
-Fold to turn c-bet
-Continuation Bet
-Went to Showdown
-Raise c-bet %
-Fold c-bet to raise %

I've been experimenting with various postflop stats, and I find that they all converge really slowly. And stats are useless if the sample size is small.

2) Is there any way to show stats for a particular player only using hands that I'm involved in? I'm starting to notice that players with 2% 3-bet rates are 3-betting me specifically a LOT from the blinds, and I wanna know if its just LAG paranoia.

I think in HEM there is a vs. player option.

In PT3 there is a player vs player view.

But I get the feeling you are wanting your HUD to show that. Nice feature if you could get it implemented. Suggest it in the HEM forums.

c9h13no3 said:

1) Rank the following stats in order of which converges quickest to its true value, from fastest to slowest.

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Depends on the players.

When a player is raising a lot preflop, his cbet% will converge extremely fast and fold to cbet raise somewhat fast. If he's limping and calling a lot preflop but raising not that much, his fold to cbet% and raise cbet% will converge fast but his cbet% very slowly.

Also, the higher the vpip the faster the other stats converge. To be extreme, you'll never have enough hands on a 4/4 to figure out his river check/raise%

BelgoSuisse said:

Depends on the players.

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Very good point. But given the same VPIP & PFR, would you think that aggression frequency or factor would converge faster?

Factor = (bets+raises)/calls
Frequency = Bet+Raise/all given opportunities to take action

Factor may give you a bit more information, but it just seems to me that frequency would converge to its true value quicker, since it doesn't depend so much on them calling, and it takes into account more hands. 4 hands where villain check/folded wouldn't affect his AF at all, but it does affect villain's AFq.

Datamine imo !