Turbo Heads Up Strategy?????

Stefanicov

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I Need serious help. I get hds up in turbo tournies and i all goes to pot and it is costing me money any advice on how to play this would be much needed

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Probably the best help you could find is in this article. Read this then go to the heads up games at whatever site you like and play a lot. There is nothing like practice to plug a leak in your game. And this advice works for turbos or not.
https://www.cardschat.com/heads-up-strategy.php
 
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Heads up in turbos is a total crapshoot. I assume the blinds are HUGGEEEE in relation to stack sizes, ive seen M's of 2-3 fight it out. These sort of situations is total aggression, you simply cannot wait for the cards to come. Post some hands well have a look.
 
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ok maybe i can win just done 2 moe and won em both lmao:D :D
 

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[long, sorry]

I don't think it's a total crapshoot, but you definitely need some luck to win more than you lose in the long run.

What's generally your biggest problem HU, Steve? Shortstacked? Opponent too aggressive?

Here's my most recent HU win from a $15 turbo if it helps:

Villain was loose-semi-aggressive, but was tightening up ITM and HU.

Not getting too aggressive at 100/200:

pokerstars Game #9226303172: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VI

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:49:31 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (9600 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (3900 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts small blind 100
ChuckTs: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Th Jc]
SHAWN0520: raises 400 to 600
ChuckTs: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [Ah 9c 6s]
ChuckTs: checks
SHAWN0520: bets 600
ChuckTs: folds
SHAWN0520 collected 1200 from pot
SHAWN0520: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1200 | Rake 0
Board [Ah 9c 6s]
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (button) (small blind) collected (1200)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (big blind) folded on the Flop

PokerStars Game #9226307505: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:49:57 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (10200 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (3300 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts small blind 100
SHAWN0520: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Qh 6c]
ChuckTs: folds
SHAWN0520 collected 250 from pot
SHAWN0520: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (big blind) collected (250)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #9226308424: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:50:03 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (10325 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (3175 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
SHAWN0520: posts small blind 100
ChuckTs: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Qc 5d]
SHAWN0520: raises 200 to 400
ChuckTs: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [2h 5c 3c]
ChuckTs: checks
SHAWN0520: bets 400 trying to play small-pot poker, I'm almost sure I'm ahead here
ChuckTs: raises 800 to 1200
SHAWN0520: calls 800
*** TURN *** [2h 5c 3c] 5♥
ChuckTs: bets 1550 and is all-in
SHAWN0520: calls 1550
*** RIVER *** [2h 5c 3c 5h] 7♦
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [Qc 5d] (three of a kind, Fives)
SHAWN0520: shows [3h 4c] (two pair, Fives and Threes)
ChuckTs collected 6350 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6350 | Rake 0
Board [2h 5c 3c 5h 7d]
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (button) (small blind) showed [3h 4c] and lost with two pair, Fives and

Threes
Seat 8: ChuckTs (big blind) showed [Qc 5d] and won (6350) with three of a kind, Fives

PokerStars Game #9226320473: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:51:17 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (7150 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (6350 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts small blind 100
SHAWN0520: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [8d 7s]
ChuckTs: folds
SHAWN0520 collected 250 from pot
SHAWN0520: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (big blind) collected (250)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #9226321606: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:51:24 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (7275 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (6225 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
SHAWN0520: posts small blind 100
ChuckTs: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [2h 3d]
SHAWN0520: raises 400 to 600
ChuckTs: folds
SHAWN0520 collected 450 from pot
SHAWN0520: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 450 | Rake 0
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (button) (small blind) collected (450)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (big blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #9226323172: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:51:34 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (7500 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (6000 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts small blind 100
SHAWN0520: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [7d 3d]
ChuckTs: folds
SHAWN0520 collected 250 from pot
SHAWN0520: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (big blind) collected (250)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #9226324160: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:51:40 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (7625 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (5875 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
SHAWN0520: posts small blind 100
ChuckTs: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [8d Qd]
SHAWN0520: folds
ChuckTs collected 250 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (button) (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: ChuckTs (big blind) collected (250)

PokerStars Game #9226325635: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:51:49 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (7500 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (6000 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts small blind 100
SHAWN0520: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [5s 3d]
ChuckTs: folds
SHAWN0520 collected 250 from pot
SHAWN0520: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (big blind) collected (250)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #9226326592: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:51:55 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (7625 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (5875 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
SHAWN0520: posts small blind 100
ChuckTs: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Jc 2c]
SHAWN0520: raises 400 to 600
ChuckTs: folds
SHAWN0520 collected 450 from pot
SHAWN0520: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 450 | Rake 0
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (button) (small blind) collected (450)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (big blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #9226328614: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:52:07 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (7850 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (5650 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts small blind 100
SHAWN0520: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Kd 9d]
ChuckTs: raises 400 to 600
SHAWN0520: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [Th Qs 7h]
SHAWN0520: checks
ChuckTs: bets 800
SHAWN0520: folds
ChuckTs collected 1250 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1250 | Rake 0
Board [Th Qs 7h]
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: ChuckTs (button) (small blind) collected (1250)

PokerStars Game #9226332142: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:52:29 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (7225 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (6275 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
SHAWN0520: posts small blind 100
ChuckTs: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Jc Tc]
SHAWN0520: raises 400 to 600
ChuckTs: calls 400 Don't want to let him know stealing my BB is that easy...
*** FLOP *** [7h 8s Ts]
ChuckTs: checks
SHAWN0520: bets 800
ChuckTs: raises 1600 to 2400
SHAWN0520: calls 1600
*** TURN *** [7h 8s Ts] 2♠
ChuckTs: bets 3250 and is all-in
SHAWN0520: folds
ChuckTs collected 6050 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6050 | Rake 0
Board [7h 8s Ts 2s]
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (button) (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 8: ChuckTs (big blind) collected (6050)

PokerStars Game #9226339261: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:53:14 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (4200 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (9300 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts small blind 100
SHAWN0520: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [5d 5c]
ChuckTs: raises 400 to 600
SHAWN0520: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [6c Jd 7d]
SHAWN0520: checks
ChuckTs: bets 600
SHAWN0520: raises 1000 to 1600
ChuckTs: folds
SHAWN0520 collected 2450 from pot
SHAWN0520: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2450 | Rake 0
Board [6c Jd 7d]
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (big blind) collected (2450)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (button) (small blind) folded on the Flop

PokerStars Game #9226345751: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:53:55 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (5425 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (8075 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
SHAWN0520: posts small blind 100
ChuckTs: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [9s Th]
SHAWN0520: calls 100
ChuckTs: checks
*** FLOP *** [6h 2d 8s] he's unlikely to have hit this, we can toss out a feeler bet
ChuckTs: bets 400
SHAWN0520: raises 800 to 1200
ChuckTs: folds
SHAWN0520 collected 1250 from pot
SHAWN0520: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1250 | Rake 0
Board [6h 2d 8s]
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (button) (small blind) collected (1250)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (big blind) folded on the Flop

PokerStars Game #9226349469: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII

(100/200) - 2007/04/03 - 01:54:18 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (6050 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (7450 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts small blind 100
SHAWN0520: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ad 7s]
ChuckTs: raises 400 to 600
SHAWN0520: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [Qh Td As]
SHAWN0520: checks
ChuckTs: bets 600
SHAWN0520: calls 600
*** TURN *** [Qh Td As] 5♠
SHAWN0520: checks
ChuckTs: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qh Td As 5s] 4♠
SHAWN0520: checks
ChuckTs: bets 1000
SHAWN0520: calls 1000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [Ad 7s] (a pair of Aces)
SHAWN0520: mucks hand
ChuckTs collected 4450 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4450 | Rake 0
Board [Qh Td As 5s 4s]
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (big blind) mucked [Qd 6s]
Seat 8: ChuckTs (button) (small blind) showed [Ad 7s] and won (4450) with a pair of Aces

Blinds hop up to 200/400, and he's sitting on <10BBs, we can start pushing him around...

PokerStars Game #9226356717: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VIII

(200/400) - 2007/04/03 - 01:55:04 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (3825 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (9675 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
SHAWN0520: posts small blind 200
ChuckTs: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [8d Js]
SHAWN0520: calls 200 verrrry weak w/ that small stack
ChuckTs: raises 9250 to 9650 and is all-in
SHAWN0520: folds
ChuckTs collected 850 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 850 | Rake 0
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (button) (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: ChuckTs (big blind) collected (850)

PokerStars Game #9226359189: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VIII

(200/400) - 2007/04/03 - 01:55:20 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (3400 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (10100 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts small blind 200
SHAWN0520: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [7d Kd]
ChuckTs: raises 9675 to 10075 and is all-in small king is good enough
SHAWN0520: folds
ChuckTs collected 850 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 850 | Rake 0
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: ChuckTs (button) (small blind) collected (850)

PokerStars Game #9226360817: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VIII

(200/400) - 2007/04/03 - 01:55:30 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (2975 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (10525 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
SHAWN0520: posts small blind 200
ChuckTs: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [As Jc]
SHAWN0520: folds
ChuckTs collected 450 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 450 | Rake 0
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (button) (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: ChuckTs (big blind) collected (450)

PokerStars Game #9226362063: TOURNAMENT #46875368, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VIII

(200/400) - 2007/04/03 - 01:55:38 (ET)
Table '46875368 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (2750 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (10750 in chips)
SHAWN0520: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts small blind 200
SHAWN0520: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [9h Kh] Again small/med king is good enough
ChuckTs: raises 10325 to 10725 and is all-in
SHAWN0520: calls 2325 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Tc 8h 5h]
*** TURN *** [Tc 8h 5h] Q♣
*** RIVER *** [Tc 8h 5h Qc] 7♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SHAWN0520: shows [2s Ks] (high card King)
ChuckTs: shows [9h Kh] (high card King - Queen+Ten+Nine kicker)
ChuckTs collected 5500 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5500 | Rake 0
Board [Tc 8h 5h Qc 7s]
Seat 7: SHAWN0520 (big blind) showed [2s Ks] and lost with high card King
Seat 8: ChuckTs (button) (small blind) showed [9h Kh] and won (5500) with high card King
 
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Basically my strategy is that because a standar(3xbb) rse would pretty much cripple me if i had to fold post flop when i get a hnd tht i am pretty sure i am ahead wiith pre flop i will push all in. I am never shorstacked heads up because i am way too agressive not to at least be on level term when it goes down to 3. In most of the hds up i go in with a 17k to 10k lead but always seem to lose coz if i hve a high he will outflop me or if i hve less thn ace high i will miss just helpedmy recordbut does seem tht i get unluckey a lot
 
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How about posting some of the bigger hands in HA? It's a little too general of a subject to give a full answer to.
 
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