TT, UTG in a $.10/$.25 cash game

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wherbie718

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Not sure if I should've taken a different line here, so I'd appreciate any advice/thoughts you may have. I included a synopsis of my thoughts during the hand as well.

Merge - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $14.33 (VPIP: 47.37, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 20)
Hero (UTG): $26.91
UTG+1: $28.04 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 6.06, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 66)
UTG+2: $26.21 (VPIP: 6.90, PFR: 3.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
MP: $7.15 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP+1: $29.72 (VPIP: 27.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 41)
CO: $27.44 (VPIP: 30.23, PFR: 18.60, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 43)
Villain (BTN): $40.50 (VPIP: 28.36, PFR: 8.96, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 68)
SB: $30.80 (VPIP: 17.91, PFR: 1.49, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T:spade: T:club:

Hero raises to $0.60, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $2.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5.00, BTN raises to $7.50, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($15.35, 2 players) K:diamond: 7:diamond: K:club:
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($15.35, 2 players) 9:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets $8.25, fold

BTN wins $14.50


The villain was a player that I identified as a competent player from his play. He wasn't playing a ton of hands, but I did notice him making raises from the button relatively often.

From UTG, a raise here with my hand seemed pretty standard and the plan was to 4bet the button if he 3bet (which he did). When he put in another bet pre flop, that pretty much screwed up the plan, and the idea was to call hoping to flop a set.

On the flop, most of the hands in his range here (10s+, AQs+) are crushing me, as well hands like 77, KQ. I'm also flipping with a diamond flush draw so I felt the best play here was to check hoping to see another card to hit my 10.

A check here by the villain is suspicion, but I'm not sure I could make too much of the check since he could likely be trapping me into betting the turn if he has a made hand.

The turn doesn't change much for my hand, and due to my read on the player and the hand thus far. I think check-folding the turn here is the right play. I don't think there is enough times that the villain is 5betting with AQ and is betting a diamond flush draw/air for me to call the bet on the turn and a larger bet on the river.

What do you think?
 
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When you 4 bet here, you cannot flat call his 5 bet. You should have shoved or fold at that point. You are not getting the implied odds to set mine there. If you are not willing to get it in preflop either flat his 3 bet or fold right there. Flatting his 5 bet is spewy
 
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I think after this way you played the hand it is pretty weak from the villain point, if you make 4even5 bet cheking the river shows weakness, i think of flat calling 3bet, and then 2/3 of the pot value bet to see where at hand you are, if he flat calls its not good if he raise fold,,,, i put his hand on a middle pair, maybe EVEN QQ, JJ and with cheking the flop he is or trapping you with the nuts or he feels weak as you at this flop...
 
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This wasn't a well played hand I will say....by 4betting you are basically commiting yourself to the pot and most times here yous hould just be flatting those Tens to his 3bet....when Villain 5bets...you can really only call here to set mine...which you aren't getting great implied odds to do especially since your heads up...Villains 5bet range is way ahead of you...and its most likely QQ+ AK+...I would have just flat the 3bet...taken a flop and went from there
 
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I don't like flatting the 5-bet especially since you called hoping to hit your set. If that was your thought get it all in there and see 5 cards or maybe he folds after that super strong play. I really hate the flat though just my opinion.
 
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Why 4bet so small that he should basically call in position with pretty much his entire range?
 
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Fold to his 3bet. His range here is really too tight to do anything else considering his overall 3bet% and the fact that he's 3betting an UTG opener.
 
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88,99,10 10, JJ, from UTG - bet 3 BB and fold if being reraised. After the flop if no set - no bet. Depending on opponent`s play if there is no higher card than my pair on the flop should try bet 60%, but with a flop in this case only check and fold.
 
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flat 3bet pre, check call all flops. if he continues on turn fold. as played call turn. and check call river unless ace hits.
 
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flat 3bet pre, check call all flops. if he continues on turn fold. as played call turn. and check call river unless ace hits.
100bb deep and OOP this plan is going to cost you a ton of money.
 
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my opinion
1/ open raise bigger than 2.4x
2, why are you 4 betting out of position with 1010? you don't have position but your hand is to strong to fold, CALL.
3/ after the 5bet raise you have to understand that you CAN'T CALL and shoving is the right play (AS TO NOT COMPOUND YOUR MISTAKES)
4/ This is a BEAUTIFUL flop for your hand. If you haden't 4bet (showing extreme strength) then this would have been a good spot to check raise. Your opponent DID NOT c-bet because of the preflop action. their c-bet would accomplish virtually nothing. They played intelligently by checking back.
5/ you should have called down, not because I think your ahead most of the time, but because your ahead enough to make it a +ev decision. Button is winning here more than losing but because of preflop action your obligated to call down
6/ remember your playing full ring so hand strength is generally stronger, but the fact that opponent is on the button and your initial raise was small doesn't sell me on opponents hand strength.
 
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Thanks for the insights here -- I appreciate everyone taking a look at this hand and helping me plug a leak in my game.
 
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