Transitioning between Sit and Goes and Cash Games

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I've been playing some micro stakes poker (No limit hold em), trying to build up the $2.00 that pokerstars credited my account with last month, I can with some consistency win the $1.00 +.20 Sit and Go tourneys cash games are presenting me with more difficulty. With the exception of one game where I caught quad tens on the turn and convinced someone to go all in I lose money every time I try to play a cash game. I assume that the problem is habits picked up from the Sit and Goes that are good strategy for tournaments but not cash games. I think one problem is that I'm used to stealing pots in Sit and Goes and the cash games I'm in people seem to be playing "no fold em hold em". Other than that observation, any tips?
 
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The blinds don't go up, no time limits, you've got all day...

Why not get it in with the best hand?

Micro-limit cash games are all about saving your chips until some one makes a big mistake.
 
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i have played micro stakes when i had money, and i did it good (i messed it up for other reason)
im not good telling my experience to others here, maybe because of my limited english, but the point is that its hard to me to explain

as you may have noticed, lot of people playing micro limits dont fold or are agressive because of the low money they are risking
so you have to play very thight agressive in my opinion
 
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Yeah just be more patient in cash games. Because the blinds go up, you can wait for the best hand, as was previous said. In sit n gos you are forced to play some worse hands, although sometimes it is not bad playing these hands, but just play good hands in cash games. Do not try to bluff as much.
 
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Trying to steal the blinds which are usually 1.5% of your stack is not the best way to spend your time and money. Try to win bigger pots!
 
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ok here is what you do at micro stakes, assuming you play the 1c/2c tables, join the table with 1,5$, wait for a good hand, AA, KK, AQ, AK, raise big you so dont get 6 callers, raise at least 6xBB, some good micro stakes grinder like to raise 10xBB. with these hands don't be afraid to get it all in preflop, you will be amaized what people call you off with. QQ and JJ are a bit tricky, i like to get QQ all in preflop vs 1 player only, with JJ i want too see a flop, if no card higher than a J comes, i move all in.

also, call with small pairs, try to catch a set, don't call raises with small pairs, suited connectors, i rarely play them, maybe if i am in late position and there are no limpers before me, i might limp in, see a flop.

hope this helps, works for me.
 
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ok here is what you do at micro stakes, assuming you play the 1c/2c tables, join the table with 1,5$, wait for a good hand, AA, KK, AQ, AK, raise big you so dont get 6 callers, raise at least 6xBB, some good micro stakes grinder like to raise 10xBB. with these hands don't be afraid to get it all in preflop, you will be amaized what people call you off with. QQ and JJ are a bit tricky, i like to get QQ all in preflop vs 1 player only, with JJ i want too see a flop, if no card higher than a J comes, i move all in.

also, call with small pairs, try to catch a set, don't call raises with small pairs, suited connectors, i rarely play them, maybe if i am in late position and there are no limpers before me, i might limp in, see a flop.

hope this helps, works for me.

I like set mining on cash tables. And jamming with premium hands.

Micros are tricky because many players do not respect raises. "Oh, whoo, a big 20 cents! Ha, ha, ha!" they think, and they stay in. Those dimes and quarters add up, though, so if you are patient and wait for good hands and situations, you can do well, on the whole. People tend to play so loose on the micro tables... but you should not. Variance will hit hard on these tables, accept it and don't fuss. You will get your money back soon enough.

As always, patience is the key, plus aggression, position and playing the opponent.
 
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Thanks. I'm about to try putting some of this advice into practice.
 
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There is a lot of good advise here. But one thing I must caution against is thinking one strategy is going to work in every game. Always pay attention to the game. Watch the ranges people raise with, the range people call with then adjust accordingly. You can't play someone who model's their game after Tom Dwan the same as someone who models their game after Phil Helmuth.
 
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The one thing I would try to focus on is hand reading. Pay attention to players when your no longer in the hand. See what types of hands they showdown and how they played them. In a cash game as well as a SNG it pays to start out very tight. Stealing blinds is a big part of winning ring games. But be wary of trying to bluff people out of pots. Take lots of notes on players as well. If the villian is willing to call off all his chips with bottom pair you not only want to value town him with hands like top pair but you never ever want to bluff him.
 
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There is a lot of good advise here. But one thing I must caution against is thinking one strategy is going to work in every game. Always pay attention to the game. Watch the ranges people raise with, the range people call with then adjust accordingly. You can't play someone who model's their game after Tom Dwan the same as someone who models their game after Phil Helmuth.

Oh I fully realize that. The thread was only meant to highlight areas where the tournament strategy that I'm apparently (for the level I'm playing at at any rate) good at vs. the ring game strategy needed to not hemorrhage money. I put some of them into play a few days ago and broke even after about an hour and half. A couple days later I lost a few bucks but that might be down to a bit of sleep dep I was suffering from (I have got to stop playing for money when I'm tired). But my sit and go winnings should keep me in ring game buy ins while I try to figure them out.

It doesn't help though when I run into situations like folding my pocket 10's because two villains are pouring money into the pot like water only to discover that they wind up splitting the pot with an Ace high each.
 
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