Training Apps to improve in Cash Game?

Hi!

Are there any decent poker training apps that focus on Texas Hold'em cash games for micros? I started taking my poker game more seriously this year, but I don't feel I improve too much using video training sites...


Thank you !!

Anyone ?

I searched on the Play Store for "Poker Trainer" and "Poker Training" and got these results:
Poker Fighter - Free Poker Trainer
Pokertrainer
Insta Poker Coach Texas Holdem

Are any of them decent ?

Hello i am software developer and my hobby is poker. I was searching for such thing and could not get anything useful so i decided to build one myself. My idea is to build bots to play against on a python. Still in progress... will be available in 3 months. Will share to you if you interested. gl

Thanks, it sounds really interesting, share when it's ready!
For the meanwhile I downloaded both Poker Fighter and Insta Poker.
InstaPoker seems very pricey, they charge $4 for only 10 hands ! It's seems like the worst ROI in the world
Poker-Fighter has a lot of free content, but most of the content is locked for premium account. I wanted to know if anyone in the forum used their premium account and can vouch for that ? I don't want to waste more money on the wrong direction

Just wanted to update that I tried the premium subscription in Poker Fighter for 1 month, and I think this product is amazing. I just wish they will add End to End Pre-Flop to River simulations. Other than that, it really strengthened my basics and was fun to play.

Does Poker Fighter show the number of times specific hands are played, the outcome and the position played? This does sound interesting. I may give it a try. Thank you for sharing! Good luck.

I didn't really understand how does ths Poker Fighter work. After reading this thread it sound quite interesting.

I would love to hear more opions about it because I also looked for good trainer in order to improve my fundamentals.

I saw that the poker fighter requires subscription and it's very cheap so I'll also give it a try.

I think you need to use holdem manager, this is a very good help. And if you choose a workout, you need to look at the coaches. If they have achieved good results, why not pay the tuition. Often, it's just draining money.

Poker snowie,ive never personally used it but i know it's very polular.

https://www.pokersnowie.com/

I like to use pokertracker and analyze on my own.

I like to use the site Run it Once. The site is pretty good at helping improve a poker players game. Good luck !

The best training is playing!

I'd love to try this once you've finished. If you're compiling a list, add me to it. I'd love a training game to try. The apps I've found aren't done very well and don't accomplish what I'm trying to.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Poker

https://www.acepokersolutions.com/Poker-equity-calculator/


Iused the trial for this some time ago wanted to purchase it but never got around to it.

When you go to the link you will see the following on the page;

You learn the most by analyzing your own game. Look at some important hands you've lost or won and try to figure out what you could have done better/ what you did right.

I think the best training is playing against other players... There are various things you need to adapt to in your game and that experience is only provided by thinking (sometimes not thinking) players.

I do not think software is good for training, we should apply coaching instead I my self lost a lost time searching this but it is all crab ...

Leak buster is the most comprehensive cash game trainer. It's not a sim, you have to play hands online, but it will pinpoint important leaks and it has tons of training content in it.

http://pokerleakbuster.com

Hi,


Poker Fighter is a standalone training app. It doesn't connect to your real online game. You are practicing inside Poker Fighter in its own levels. They have different levels for different positions.

Thanks,I am using Hold'em Manager to track my online game. I was looking for apps to train by myself without risking real money

I played with it quite a while, you can PM or write here if you have specific questions

I just downloaded it to my mobile. Very slow and no feedback on my decisions ?

But how could you know what do you need to improve ? And how to improve it?

Hi Shorps, thanks for that. As I said in the OP, video training sites are nice, but you can't actually train in them Just learn theoretically what to do. This is why I was looking for apps to actually train with

Tell that to my friends that play for 10 years and keep losing every night

Thanks I will take a look !

Yeah the problem is that "you don't know what you don't know", if you understand what I mean

Thanks I will take a look. How solid is the advice there ?

I like to save hands as I play, as well as check what positions I profit, and which i dont. There is a lot to learn from looking at your own game and think on your own. I do this to develop my own style, always adapting to the game. The right strategy 10 years ago might not be the best today.

Some of the best advise youll get on your game is leak buster ,besides hiring a coach it just doen't get much better.On both poker tracker and holdem manager you can trial both for a month each and at the end of the month use it to anylize your game.Other than that what specific questions do you have that you think you need to understand.Have you worked on preflop ranges to start with ?.

I totally agree. But a player must have good poker fundamentals and high sense of self-criticism and awareness in order to value from self analysis.

So Leakbuster was nice, but it only gave me general knowledge on what parts are my weaker parts. Also, I feel like the advice is too "generic" in the sense that it should show me different advice according to the stakes I play. For example, I might be folding to 3bets pre flop too much in middle stakes, but I feel that I'm not folding too much for Micros.


I worked on my preflop ranges using the charts and practice in Poker Fighter, I don't know how solid they are though. I was wondering if someone can validate them ?
Oh and by the way, I realized that Poker Fighter can also be played on a desktop!

https://www.poker-fighter.com

I personally prefer to use a mouse and a huge monitor when practicing for hours

Heres some ranges and advise on building ranges all on the tighter side to give you a very good base to begin with.Just start with the NIT RFI ranges(raised first in ranges)things like 3bet ranges youll need to do some research on as ive only included polerized tighter ranges.And you want to include linear ranges as'well and use a mixed strategy vs the regs, Linear ranges vs the fish and polerzied vs people with high fold to 3bet.But as a default i think these will work fine.And just play around with the ranges until your happy with them.


NIT

10% utg
15% mp
20% c/o
40% btn
30% sb

TAG
15% utg
20% mp
25% c/o
45% btn
35% sb

LAG

20% utg
25% mp
30% c/o
50%+ btn
40%+ sb

then download combonator
https://combonator.com/

And from each position plug it into combonator and work out a 35% defense frequency vs a 3bet so 65% fold vs 3bet from each position and don't worry about being in or out of position. Just play out of position tight defense ranges to start with.This is quite a tight defense strategy the minimum defense is around 28% or 72% folds.So aim for something around 35% or 40% defend or 60% 65% folds vs a 3bet.

Heres some tighter cold call ranges , copy and paste to equilab and then you can plug them into flopzilla.https://www.pokerstrategy.com/poker-...quilab-holdem/

MPvsUTG QQ-55, AJs+, KQs, JTs, T9s, 98s, AQo+
COvsUTG QQ-55, ATs+, KQs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, AQo+
BTNvsUTG QQ-22, ATs+, KQs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, AQo+
SBvsUTG QQ-55, AQs+, AQo+
BBvsUTG QQ-22, ATs+, KQs, JTs, AQo+

COvsMP QQ-55, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, AQo+
BTNvsMP QQ-22,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,J9s+,T9s,98s,87s,76s,65s,AQo+
SBvsMP QQ-55, AQs, KQs, AQo+
BBvsMP QQ-22, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, AQo+

BTNvsCO TT-22,AJs-ATs,KTs+,QTs+,J9s+,T8s+,98s,87s,76s,65s,54s,AQo-AJo,KQo
SBvsCO TT-55, AJs-ATs, KJs+, QJs, AQo-AJo, KQo
BBvsCO TT-22, AJs-ATs, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, AQo-AJo, KQo

SBvsBTN TT-55,AJs-ATs,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,AJo,KJo+,QJo
BBvsBTN TT-22,ATs-A2s,K8s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,AJo-A2o,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o

BBvsSB 99-22,ATs-A2s,K7s+,Q7s+,J7s+,T7s+,97s+,87s,AJo-A2o,K8o+,Q8o+,J8o+,T8o+,98o




3BETS (polerzied ranges)


MPvsUTG KK+,A5s-A2s

COvsUTG KK+,A5s-A2s

BTNvsUTG KK+,A5s-A2s

SBvsUTG KK+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s

BBvsUTG KK+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s

COvsMP KK+,A5s-A2s

BTNvsMP KK+,A5s-A2s

SBvsMP KK+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s

BBvsMP KK+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s

BTNvsCO JJ+,AQs+,A9s-A2s,K9s-K6s,Q9s,J9s,T8s,97s,86s,AKo

SBvsCO JJ+,44-22,AQs+,KTs,QTs,J9s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,76s,AKo

BBvsCO JJ+,AQs+,K9s,Q9s,J9s,T8s+,97s+,86s+,76s,AKo

SBvsBTN JJ+,AQs+,A9s-A2s,K9s-K8s,Q9s-Q8s,J9s-J8s,T8s+,97s+,86s+,76s,AQo+

BBvsBTN JJ+,AJs+,K7s-K2s,Q7s-Q2s,97s,86s+,75s+,64s+,53s+,43s,AQo+

BBvsSB TT+,AJs+,K6s-K2s,Q6s-Q2s,AQo+,A4o-A2o,K7o-K5o




If you want a 4bet bluff range from each position work out your value combos and them devide it by 1.5 to give you a bluff ratio for your bluff combos.So for instance if you 4bet kk+ for value from utg that's 12 value combos which would give you 8 bluff combos needed.If you 4bet QQ+ AK for value from the CO then thats 34 value combos giving you 22 bluff combos needed.


Use flopzilla to store all the ranges to check while your playing
http://www.flopzilla.com/

If you need any more advise just send me a pm or whatever and and ill try and help however i can.


gl.

Wow, thanks for the elaborated answer !Do you think these ranges fit all stakes ? Or is it more adjusted for micros ?

Where do you play? If you play on BetOnline or Sportsbetting.ag, BEtOnline Card Catcher is a good software that grabs hand info from all your opponents in play, then exports it into a poker HUD that you can run with Holdem Manager (HM doesn't let players run poker HUDs, IDK why). Anyway, Card Catcher is also optimized for cash games and tournaments so you might want to check out their special combos to maximize your advantage in the game.

I 've tried some of them. But they are so much standard and ABC poker! The best training is playing real money real games

Best software use HUD to have edge over opponent. Bankroll management is key......

I suggest you try Ace Poker Drills's Preflop Trainer, probably one of the few apps that show results in a week. just do the drills an hour or so before you start playing. you will notice that the time you need to make decisions are shortened, sometimes you make them by reflex. Easier for you to play multi-table

There is a poker bot you can play headsup at slumbot.com

I play on PokerStars and 888, will it work there ?

Thanks ! I will take a look

So funny that Iv'e encountered this thread by mistake.
Apparently someone from this thread just recommended the Poker Fighter and after a few days that I tried it myself, it is actually great. So fun and helpful.

It's a relatively new Poker Trainer, yet it gives me the exact boost that my game needed.

For all of you doubters, it has also a free web version (and also premium) and they also have an android app. You have absolutely nothing to lose.

I just wanted to tell you that a friend of mine saw this thread and recommended strongly that I have to try out the Poker Fighter (after he tried it out himself and digged it!). I have to admit that I fell in love with it immediately. It's so simple to use, so fun that the time completely flies by, and most important - it actually feels like my poker fundamentals and basic skills improve substancially every single day that I play.

Iv'e already purchased the 1 year premium account lol (I'm sure you also upgraded yours into a 1 year premium account).

Do you know by any chance if it's going to be on IOS as well? I'm so sad that I can't use the Poker Fighter android app.

I just had a look at it, it's very good.


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I purchased the full version of Tournament Poker Coach -app (same than InstaPoker, but for tournaments). I will say my results got incredibly better after that. I have also a free version of InstaPoker, so I can say it will pay back itself very fast. But I am not sure is it that good for micro stakes since players in micro stakes are so illogical and, sorry, total idiots.

I have got very good results in 6 max cash games at the micro level by practicing with Advanced Poker Training and blackrain79's Crushing The Micro Stakes -product. But best training is always to just play.

This would be a fun project. I am a graphic designer and if you need any original art I would be more than happy to contribute to this. Let me know if I can help. Hell, why not even make a CC app? Hmm, Hmm.. :P

This can become fun project with cc members helping with skills or ideas for bots playing at different spots...

Pokersnowie is a popular software where you can learn about GTO. I haven't tried it but I heard it is good.

Also;
I have used Leak Buster (with HM2; PokerSnowie is also attached) and it has helped a lot!
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