E
enesem
Rock Star
Silver Level
I am on a poker journey trying to turn an OK live cash tables player into an online success. (Playing live 1/2 tables I can usually be up 200 - 400 per session). Online is a different animal….
I posted previously about getting into some big all in hands and losing my stack, so I am studying and working hard. The problem is, using all the "by the book" techniques is causing even bigger losses.
I am playing pokerstars .10/.25 tables, and I am getting cleaned out.
My current stats over 7900 hands:
VPIP: 18.81
PFR: 9.27
The rest of my stats are all more or less in the green (poker tracker).
So, I am only going in with big hands, maybe limping pairs.
The problem is, the hands I lose, I am always ahead at the flop, then no matter what I do, I will get hammered. Last night I played on a table with one guy, here are his stats from his session:
49 hands:
VPIP: 70.83
PFR: 14.58
Won: 28.81 GBP
Now, I am plagued by players like this. If I play KK or AA, even with 3 to 5 bb raise, they call. Flop is rubbish, I check raise or raise, they call. River comes, I raise, check raise, check, doesn't matter, flop comes and they end up with trip or two weak pairs.
it seems the most loose and random players seem to win plenty. If I have AA or KK without these types of players, I usually win the blinds as everyone folds. The only decent hands I get I am crushed on.
AA, A in the flop, big raises to the point where we are both all in, the guy ends up with full house as I couldn't clear him out (my 3 x A vs pair of queens, he held on, queen on the river, he gets full house).
I wouldn't like to say this is just short term, I can sit and careful build a $ 20 buy in to $25 or $ 30 over the course of an hour or two, then one random numpty turns up and half an hour later I am on my second buy in.
I am not silly enough to say my technique is solid and not at fault, but I am using all of the best practices I have studied and still I get caned. It's not that I am predictable either, these guys just rock in and out at random.
It really seems that at the low stakes tables, you have to be completely reckless to win. Careful play doesn't seem to win.
BAH ! Rant over …
If anyone has any advice on how to break this cycle I would be hugely grateful. I am down 150 GBP since my experiment started, which is losing one buy in on cash tables so not disastrous.
Why am I good in a casino playing live but absolutely shite online ?
Thank you for your thoughts :>)
NM
I posted previously about getting into some big all in hands and losing my stack, so I am studying and working hard. The problem is, using all the "by the book" techniques is causing even bigger losses.
I am playing pokerstars .10/.25 tables, and I am getting cleaned out.
My current stats over 7900 hands:
VPIP: 18.81
PFR: 9.27
The rest of my stats are all more or less in the green (poker tracker).
So, I am only going in with big hands, maybe limping pairs.
The problem is, the hands I lose, I am always ahead at the flop, then no matter what I do, I will get hammered. Last night I played on a table with one guy, here are his stats from his session:
49 hands:
VPIP: 70.83
PFR: 14.58
Won: 28.81 GBP
Now, I am plagued by players like this. If I play KK or AA, even with 3 to 5 bb raise, they call. Flop is rubbish, I check raise or raise, they call. River comes, I raise, check raise, check, doesn't matter, flop comes and they end up with trip or two weak pairs.
it seems the most loose and random players seem to win plenty. If I have AA or KK without these types of players, I usually win the blinds as everyone folds. The only decent hands I get I am crushed on.
AA, A in the flop, big raises to the point where we are both all in, the guy ends up with full house as I couldn't clear him out (my 3 x A vs pair of queens, he held on, queen on the river, he gets full house).
I wouldn't like to say this is just short term, I can sit and careful build a $ 20 buy in to $25 or $ 30 over the course of an hour or two, then one random numpty turns up and half an hour later I am on my second buy in.
I am not silly enough to say my technique is solid and not at fault, but I am using all of the best practices I have studied and still I get caned. It's not that I am predictable either, these guys just rock in and out at random.
It really seems that at the low stakes tables, you have to be completely reckless to win. Careful play doesn't seem to win.
BAH ! Rant over …
If anyone has any advice on how to break this cycle I would be hugely grateful. I am down 150 GBP since my experiment started, which is losing one buy in on cash tables so not disastrous.
Why am I good in a casino playing live but absolutely shite online ?
Thank you for your thoughts :>)
NM