Suited Aces - when to play them

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I would like to add more speculative hands to my range since I am cutting down on EP range. Suited Aces look nice but I am unsure about proper way to play them unless in LP.

0. Player types relevant? Better to play vs TAGs who can be floated/reverse floated?

1. MP raises, I am in HJ, nobody else in pot. Call?
2. UTG raises, MP1 calls, I am HJ. Call?
3. MP raises, BTN flats, I am in SB (worst position). Call?

Thinking process would be great.
 
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Against preflop raises, I'd be very careful playing a hand like A6s. Player types are no irrelevant with speculative hands like this - they're EVERYTHING.

I would play these against loose players more often than I play them against TAG. If TAG is raising preflop, you're probably going to figure them for A/high kicker at least, which pretty much leaves you with a hand that needs to flop two pair or better to win. Even if you do flop your flush or flush draw, it is unlikely you'll get paid off by a TAG player unless he or she has a strong hand like three of a kind or better.

Against loose players, you can probably win the pot by hitting a pair of Aces, and if you do flop that flush or flush draw, you can build a large pot for yourself.

Also, a good strategy to use at least some of the time may be to raise in early position preflop. For two reasons: 1. You eliminate weaker hands that would need to call a raise cold and 2. If you get re-raised, you know right off the bat your speculative hand may be crushed and you can save yourself some money when an Ace hits the flop. Just calling doesn't really give you any information.

In MP, you may want to raise if you are the first one in the pot for the same reasons stated above. If you aren't the first one in, it's probably a good idea to just fold. In MP, calling can thrust you into a tricky situation, so I like to either raise or fold.

In late position, you could raise or call. I like to call with a hand like AXs in late position. Your ultimate goal for it is to hit a big hand, so the more people contributing to the pot, the better. You can also get a better feel for the pot odds if you do flop a big draw because everyone else is acting first.
 
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I do raise them from MP onwards and 3bet them from the blinds (blocker) against some players. I am just unsure when is it worth it to call with them.
 
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1. MP raises, I am in HJ, nobody else in pot. Call?
If he's loose flat and fish for a flush. Depending on how much of a fish he is A-high might be good, but your best bet is to get a station or a spewtard to pay off a flush big.

If he's tight you have blockers so use this for a 3bet bluff. If you get flat though, assume a pair of Aces will never be good, and if you get 4bet just fold.

2. UTG raises, MP1 calls, I am HJ. Call?
Yeah, flat. You're in position with 2 more players in pot, so you're in a fantastic position to flush-mine.

3. MP raises, BTN flats, I am in SB (worst position). Call?
Squeeze. You're OOP so you really just wanna end the hand right now, and you have decent equity agaist 2 people, so even if both call the situation is salvageable. If one calls you just demonstrated tremendous strength by 3betting two people, so a cbet will usually take it down, depending on board texture (again, you're basically never good in an Ace board, and you probably need a T-high board or lower to cbet bluff successfully).

A great way to use weak suited Aces, incidentally, is by using MPTK to semibluff drawless boards in a tight dynamic. You have 5 fairly clean outs (6 if you have a BDFD in a dry board), and if your villain's range is TPGK or better (or better yet, TPTK or better), you have blockers to nearly every hand he could continue with, giving you tremendous added FE.
 
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I would be aggressive by raising with weak suited aces instead of calling raisers.

Secondly if you are playing (A6 suited for example) and you flop an A or a 6 you are going to be tempted to stay in when you could be crushed. Be prepared to get away from the hand.
 
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I thought this thread was about playing AAs, I want a refund.
 
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