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Beasty2k
Rock Star
Silver Level
Hi all,
Played a live EUR 2/2 (200-buyin) cash game last week. No fish at the table when I joined, was obvious fairly quickly. A loose table with a lot of pf raising. Big stacks around overall, many with 3-4 buy-ins.
I decided to play nitty tight to start. I ended up getting sucked out on AA, KK, QQ and AK and lost 4 buy-ins within 3 hours. I know that is unlucky and that I played them right, so this is beside the point. My question is a more general one...
Let's say the scenario is as above, most of the villians are LAG and big stacked, I have ~1 buy-in. Say I am in MP with JJ. I raise 3-4x and BTN or SB/BB raise to 9-12x. I call and miss the flop which comes Q62 rainbow. I check he bets, I fold... This happened all the time. And the times I did see more streets, if for instance raised his flop-bet, he would shove. It's as though money is not an issue and they were just gambling to get my chips in.
So the problem is NOT that I got sucked out the times I played correctly, the problem is they tried to put me all in all the time.
Also, say I was MP and had 1-2 limpers in front of me... if I limped too (with let's say QJs), I would 100% sure see a raise which I would fold to. If I didn't limp, more limpers would enter and everyone would see a cheap flop. It felt like everyone around the table was a team trying to steal my chips at any cost.
What is the strategy to fight this? I normally play TAG, being very aggressive at times. After some time at the table I notice how people play more defensively vs me, which I do enjoy. I have no problems firing 3 barrels if I sense weakness.
During this particular session, only once did I get folds by 3betting from MP with QJs, followed by a comment "King King?". So my nitty start obviously made a footprint which I could use. But everyone seemed to call or raise everything despite my only showdown cards were monsters.
Played a live EUR 2/2 (200-buyin) cash game last week. No fish at the table when I joined, was obvious fairly quickly. A loose table with a lot of pf raising. Big stacks around overall, many with 3-4 buy-ins.
I decided to play nitty tight to start. I ended up getting sucked out on AA, KK, QQ and AK and lost 4 buy-ins within 3 hours. I know that is unlucky and that I played them right, so this is beside the point. My question is a more general one...
Let's say the scenario is as above, most of the villians are LAG and big stacked, I have ~1 buy-in. Say I am in MP with JJ. I raise 3-4x and BTN or SB/BB raise to 9-12x. I call and miss the flop which comes Q62 rainbow. I check he bets, I fold... This happened all the time. And the times I did see more streets, if for instance raised his flop-bet, he would shove. It's as though money is not an issue and they were just gambling to get my chips in.
So the problem is NOT that I got sucked out the times I played correctly, the problem is they tried to put me all in all the time.
Also, say I was MP and had 1-2 limpers in front of me... if I limped too (with let's say QJs), I would 100% sure see a raise which I would fold to. If I didn't limp, more limpers would enter and everyone would see a cheap flop. It felt like everyone around the table was a team trying to steal my chips at any cost.
What is the strategy to fight this? I normally play TAG, being very aggressive at times. After some time at the table I notice how people play more defensively vs me, which I do enjoy. I have no problems firing 3 barrels if I sense weakness.
During this particular session, only once did I get folds by 3betting from MP with QJs, followed by a comment "King King?". So my nitty start obviously made a footprint which I could use. But everyone seemed to call or raise everything despite my only showdown cards were monsters.