Stat Analysis - Ok 10NL... suck 25NL why?

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Just wondering if I could get feedback on my stats...I have not been successful in my move up limits and need comments on any leaks you can see in my stats... I'm sure there are many... my all-in adjusted EV is -$200... so I've been running a bit bad...but regardless I am still a losing player. Thanks kindly in advance
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Is this FR or 6max??
 
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Went to showdown 30% is what seems to be the biggest problem, or at least the biggest leak I can spot right away, went to showdown is at about 25% at a winning player at 10nl. also, playing 24/16 is not that good, vpip and pfr should be tighter together, somewhere around 23/19 or 19/16. this tells me you call way too much with marginal hands, like JT K9s A6 etc you should give up on these hands because most of the time you hit a pair you have no idea if you are good or not, and I assume, like if you hit an A with the A6 hand you will call down to a showdown, and I believe this is how you lose a lot of you money.

I bet there will be some people who can spot more leaks. but the went to showdown, well, think about folding more to river bets. your fold to river raise is 49%, regardless of who you villain is, fish or freaking phil ivey, you simply have to fold a lot more to a river raise, unless he is insane he will not bluff with a raise on the river so you should start folding those top pair type of hands, even 2 pairs if the board is scary with flush draws and straight draws.
 
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Stats are all for six max...

For clarification all of these stats are for 6 max tables...
 
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After years of HEM I have a hard time reading PT.

It looks like your c-bet % is around 50%? That seems low, but that depends on your positional play to an extent because if you're opening too much from early, then you shouldn't c-bet as much either. Do you have positional stats?
 
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position stats...

I have positional stats from PT but do not know how to add picture to this forum... does anyone know the shortcut for save screen shot on windows 7?
 
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On windows 7 there should be something called 'Snipping tool' Usually in Programs > Accesories, you can then select or snip the stuff you want and it saves it as a jpg.
 
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Fold river more as already mentioned - certainly to a raise, unless you are really sure of your hand.

playing 24/16 is not that good, vpip and pfr should be tighter together, somewhere around 23/19 or 19/16. this tells me you call way too much with marginal hands, like JT K9s A6 etc you should give up on these hands because most of the time you hit a pair you have no idea if you are good or not, and I assume, like if you hit an A with the A6 hand you will call down to a showdown, and I believe this is how you lose a lot of you money.
In your estimation, is this true mbat? Cos if so, there's one thing you can do to not lose (win!) money straight away, get rid of those marginal hands that you are calling with. Chop out all the crap.

PF, how aggressive are you? One thing I've noticed between 10 and 25 is that the aggression PF is higher. How are you dealing with that? I can't seem to find it on those stats, but what are your 3bet and squeezing numbers/ranges like?

Disclosure: I'm currently taking a shot at 25nl and slightly losing, so feel free to ignore me :)
 
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just spotted one more huge mistake that you are doing, fold to turn raise :)

you fold to a raise on the turn 35% of the time. you need to read up on baluga theorem and find out why you have to give up to this raise a lot more, especially to a check raise. the basics of baluga theorem says this “You should strongly re-evaluate the strength of one-pair hands in the face of a raise on the turn.”

feel free to google it and read more about it, and I bet it will improve your game.
 
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Biggest thing I think is that pfr and vpip are far apart. Do you limp preflop? If so, STOP. There is almost never a reason to limp.
 
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Additional information...

I do find that perhaps I call in position too much preflop with marginal hands... I've never had a run like this where I've actually lost money on the button... As you can see a comparison of my 10 and 25 stats reveals the difference in my play at the levels is not too great... yet my results are quite different.
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- You're right; basic stats for the different levels look similar. Can you get overall stats of your opponents by level to see how the different levels are playing? There should be some reason that the different levels play differently against your style.

- If your c-bet is 50%, that is too low. You have some positional awareness so you're not playing crap from early so I would expect you to have a cbet % around 60-70.

- 30% VPIP from the SB with a 15% PFR seems way out of line to me; I usually approach it as a raise/fold position, especially in 6 max where you're not going to get 3-6 limpers like FR giving you massive implied odds for your 75s.

- You're right again; button should be your winningest position. This might tie in with not c-betting enough. Also, at 25nl I'd say you can start floating or calling down with bluff catchers, especially in position, if you do it against appropriate opponents. Your W$SD is lowest here which might indicate that you're folding the best hand against aggressive players, or your going the other way and calling down nits who have hands.

- The winning % is almost the same at both levels, but your bb/100 and $ are not = you're winning smaller pots and losing bigger ones at 25nl. Any idea why? Not getting max value from winning hands? Paying off huge amounts with losers?
 
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imo tighten up in the bb
 
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just spotted one more huge mistake that you are doing, fold to turn raise :)

you fold to a raise on the turn 35% of the time. you need to read up on baluga theorem and find out why you have to give up to this raise a lot more, especially to a check raise. the basics of baluga theorem says this “You should strongly re-evaluate the strength of one-pair hands in the face of a raise on the turn.”

feel free to google it and read more about it, and I bet it will improve your game.

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