This is a discussion on Some PLO Zoom hands part 1 within the online poker forums, in the Cash Games section; Played a session of PLO Zoom yesterday, these are some of the more interesting hands. Comments on my play in any of them appreciated....
Hand 1. You had second nuts on the river. Postflop is completely fine. The 3 bet preflop is a bit light but given that its btn v blinds ill accept it. You are however going to be in a weird spot a lot since you are oop and you block your own flush outs and have that 5 doing nothing for you. The only thing about postflop to note is you can in some spots check the turn back cause its very likely on a J9x flop someone is drawing to a straight and you get raised a lot on that particular turn. I dont mind betting it at all but against some villains its a check.
Hand 2. Im fine with that
Hand 3. Im folding that preflop, especially from MP. Its going to play horribly post flop. Turn is also a check back since nothing folds that turn and we get raised a fair bit.
Hand 4. You cant value bet that river, You get no value from worse hands.
Hand 5. Fold preflop, hand is atrocious especially OOP. After we donk the flop and hit the flush on the turn we should definitely lead the turn as well. Basically when we dont lead the turn, we either c/r which folds all worse flushes or c/c with the intention of donking river which again looks super strong. Then you lose value from the times villain checks back river. So just bet the turn and river.
Hand 6. Super Standard.
Hand 7. Fold Preflop. As played postflop is fine.
Hand 8. Fold preflop. I can accept it since we have the TT blocker.
Hand 9. Fold the flop.
3rd May 2013, 2:04 PM
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Cash, MTTs
Thanks for the feedback
Seems like I still need to work on my starting hand selection.
Hands you said to fold pre are 5 + 7, which are AKoXX with XX being low cards. Think I see the AK and get excited, too used to playing NL. Hand 7 is better than 5 because it is double suited but I guess something like KcAh7h6c would be considerably better than KcAh7h3c due to straight possibility? You said fold KcAh7h3c pre (hand 7) but this is because I'm UTG? Would you raise from MP or BTN with it?
You also said to fold hands 3 + 8 pre (JdQhJh5s and 4sThAcTc respectively). I am playing these because they have an OK pair to setmine with and either a decent SC (QhJh) or a suited Ace (AcTc). Is it wrong to setmine at all? Or is it fine if you dont have any junk in your hand (the 5s and 4s in these two). I am MP in both these hands, are they playable from a later seat?
Hand 4: Ya I am far from the nuts here I can see why you say nothing worse calls the river bet.
Hand 3: You said nothing folds that turn so I should check back. Why does nothing fold that turn? Because it's a blank or because another FD comes in?
Hand 9: Agree to fold the flop, drawing to a non nut flush when you block your own outs is bad right.
3rd May 2013, 2:21 PM
btn is fine but from UTG its likely to get called from later position. Plus remember you got 2 hands with KA and 76 cause the 7 doesnt play well with the A and K and vice versa.
You cant set mine as often in PLO as you do in holdem you need to definitely be in late postion opening the pot and you want to have cordination with the other 2 cards the 5 and 4 respecitvely make it really hard for oyu to ever hit a massive hand.
hand 3. 2 pair type hands wont fold very often to that turn and also there are a ton more draws someone could have backed into and peel wit h1 pair and a FD etc.
Hand 9. Also the board is paired so you can already be dead.
18th September 2013, 1:14 PM
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re: Poker & Some PLO Zoom hands part 1
What ur name on stars micro, im playing round the plo zoom quite a bit. Might have you down as a nemesis here?
18th September 2013, 1:26 PM
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Cash, MTTs
I very much doubt that I suck at PLO and I haven't played it much recently. I'll PM u my SN though