So Many Points, So Little Time...

I posted this in the cash games thread but thought I'd start one of my own...

So I've been really lazy with my first deposit bonus clearing but I've decided I want to clear it up and use the free money. So. I have currently cleared $125.21 of my $599.99 (lol I know, exchange rate) bonus. I have until the 25th of September at 11:03 to clear it. Some simple maths:

$599.99 - $125.21 = $474.78.

$0.06 cleared per 1 FTP earned which means I need to earn

$474.78 / $0.06 = 7913 Full Tilt Points, yay round number.

Starting today (so when I wake up, it's 4AM here) I have 49 days plus half a day on the 25/09/10.

This means I must earn: 7913 / 49 = 161.5 (rounded up) per day from now until then.


I currently play 10nl and with some serious grind those numbers are attainable on any given day. However with this amount EVERYDAY for 49 days, this will be very tough. To give an example on 7/08/10 I played 1500 hands of FR and earned 150 FTP's.

I would hope to earn 200 FTP's for a couple weeks to give me a cushion and this is serious grind, especially for someone who is not used to it and at my level. Obviously I hope to move up soon, my bankroll is around $220 and I'm not even sure I'm a winner at this level yet. I will probs play with 6ish tables of 6-max to still learn the game as I grind.

I also don't have a job atm but I'm starting uni around the end of September, so those last few weeks will be ****ed up, freshers week woooo.


So long and short of it, wish me luck, I will need it along with a good amount of determination, something that's not really in my vocabulary. I wish I had money to put on a prop bet, but sadly I don't. At least it will be good for my game and hopefully get some Iron Man going too.

I've got grind on the mind, let us go go go!

Get as much as you can in early, you're going to be pretty sick of poker come the end of september.

Happy grind and good luck

Played my first session of my first day. Only one today cause I started late and I didn't get as many hands in as I need but It's only the start and I'm warming up

Managed to get some metagame going with a villain which was funny, lol 10nl metagame. First 2 hands were successive:


full tilt poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 859104
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Hero (BB): $10.00
CO: $14.42
BTN: $13.18
SB: $31.73

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A ♥ A ♦
2 folds, SB raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, SB raises to $3.60, Hero raises to $10, 1 fold

Final Pot: $7.20
Hero wins $7.20
(Rake: $0.00)

Full Tilt Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 859107
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Hero (SB): $13.60
BB: $14.42
CO: $13.18
BTN: $28.13

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with Q ♥ Q ♦
1 fold, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BTN raises to $3.10, Hero raises to $13.60, BTN calls $10.50

Flop: ($27.30) J ♠ Q ♣ 9 ♠

Turn: ($27.30) 5 ♣

River: ($27.30) T ♣

Final Pot: $27.30
Hero shows Q ♥ Q ♦
BTN shows 4 ♥ 4 ♠
Hero wins $26.30
(Rake: $1.00)


Full Tilt Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 859108
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Hero (UTG): $25.91
CO: $10.00
BTN: $14.04
SB: $13.82
BB: $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with Q ♥ Q ♠
Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, BTN raises to $1.35, 2 folds, Hero raises to $25.91, BTN calls $12.69 all in

Flop: ($28.23) 4 ♣ K ♣ 7 ♠

Turn: ($28.23) J ♠

River: ($28.23) 8 ♦

Final Pot: $28.23
Hero shows Q ♥ Q ♠
BTN shows J ♣ J ♦
BTN wins $26.35
(Rake: $-9.99)

I know it changed from SB to BTN but it was the same guy all 3.



Now for the graph. I'm up for the day, yay! I also started playing some +EV poker which felt good. Not been enough of that recently and felt a lot more comfortable today than I have recently.







Also some more cool/lol hands...


Full Tilt Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 859116
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UTG: $8.10
Hero (MP): $22.08
CO: $42.40
BTN: $19.54
SB: $39.69
BB: $12.41

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with 6 ♥ 6 ♠
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, BB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.10

Flop: ($3.05) 3 ♦ J ♦ 4 ♣ (2 players)
BB bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60

Turn: ($6.25) 3 ♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($6.25) J ♥ (2 players)
BB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1

Final Pot: $8.25
Hero shows 6 ♥ 6 ♠
BB shows Q ♦ A ♣
Hero wins $7.82
(Rake: $0.43)


Full Tilt Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 859117
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SB: $10.00
BB: $10.00
UTG: $20.81
CO: $35.02
Hero (BTN): $13.19

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 4 ♣ 6 ♣
1 fold, CO raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.60, 2 folds, CO calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.35) J ♦ 8 ♦ 3 ♠ (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $1.00, CO calls $1

Turn: ($3.35) T ♣ (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $2.00, CO calls $2

River: ($7.35) Q ♣ (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $4.00, CO folds

Final Pot: $7.35
Hero wins $6.96
(Rake: $0.39)


Full Tilt Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 859119
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CO: $26.47
BTN: $21.48
SB: $11.08
Hero (BB): $23.14
UTG: $15.55

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 9 ♥ T ♥
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.45, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.35

Flop: ($0.95) Q ♦ 6 ♠ T ♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.95) 7 ♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.00, Hero calls $3

River: ($7.95) A ♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Final Pot: $7.95
BTN shows 9 ♦ A ♣
Hero mucks 9 ♥ T ♥
BTN wins $7.52
(Rake: $0.43)



This one is more of a question, against his actual hand I was 47/53 dog but should I have stacked off this deep? Played any different? Will post in hand analysis section too don't worry:


Full Tilt Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 859126
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Hero (BTN): $20.87
SB: $11.14
BB: $29.38
UTG: $9.15
CO: $31.18

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 8 :diamond: 7 :diamond:
UTG raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) 6 :diamond: 7 :heart: Q :heart: (3 players)
BB bets $0.60, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.45) 9 :diamond: (2 players)
BB bets $1.60, Hero raises to $4.50, BB raises to $28.10, Hero calls $15.37 all in

River: ($42.19) 6 :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $42.19
Hero shows 8 :diamond: 7 :diamond:
BB shows 6 :spade: 7 :club:
BB wins $40.19
(Rake: $2.00)



So that's that, more tomorrow, hopefully a lot more, go go go!

I look forward to seeing your progress. You may want to mix in some FR games if your playing style allows. I am pretty sure you earn FTPs as long as you are sitting actively at a table, so you could earn more with less effort.

200 points a day playing 10nl is easy. I've done it all year long. 8 tables with two back ups going. So I guess I should say 8 to 10 tables. Takes around two hours to hit 200 points. That's for FR. I would assume it would be quicker playing 6 max.

GL, but you are making it sound more difficult than it actually is.

Rush poker- should get there in no time.

tpb221 said:

Rush poker- should get there in no time.

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This ^_^

I understand what you're saying TPC. I'm playing 10nl but hopefully not forever so I'm playing 6 tables of 6-max atm. Far from my max-limit but where I feel I can make good decisions and keep learning. Also everyone is different and for me this is a lot of hands. I'm not saying it's unpossibles, but for me very hard. 3/4 hours a day every day for 50 days will be tough.

Oh and no rush thank you, for the same reasons above

Thanks for the support guys

tpb221 said:

Rush poker- should get there in no time.

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If there is busto, rush poker obv rigged

I would say Rush Poker, but if you don't like Rush Poker then my suggestion would be to not worry about the points or you are going to lose the money you have now chasing those points. Just my suggestion

TheOne2Watch said:

I would say Rush Poker, but if you don't like Rush Poker then my suggestion would be to not worry about the points or you are going to lose the money you have now chasing those points. Just my suggestion

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Agree. You can play in freerolls & tournaments with a lot of players to earn points too.

Kountess said:

Agree. You can play in freerolls & tournaments with a lot of players to earn points too.

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Why would I play freerolls?


So I didn't play yesterday. Woke up, watched the football (THE PREMIER LEAGUE IS BACK!!!), played some football, then went to town. Doesn't look like I'll play today either cause I'm suffering a little from the latter on that list. I'll try and get some hands in later in the day perhaps. Only after the footy now though. Oh well

A few things I don't like about the hands above...

1) You call a 3-bet vs. 120BB stack with pocket 6s.
2) Your river bluff bet sizing was too small with the 64s
3) You call a turn over-bet (T9s hand) with 2nd pair, and then check the spade river. I think if you were going to play this T9s hand, you should 3-bet light pre-flop. If this villain hates to fold, I'd just fold this hand pre-flop. If you feel you can outplay him on certain boards, then maybe a call is ok this deep. As played, I guess I don't mind your call on the flop. When he overbets the turn I think you have to raise or fold.
4) I've posted my thoughts on the 87s hand in HA.

madtom1337 said:

A few things I don't like about the hands above...

1) You call a 3-bet vs. 120BB stack with pocket 6s.
2) Your river bluff bet sizing was too small with the 64s
3) You call a turn over-bet (T9s hand) with 2nd pair, and then check the spade river. I think if you were going to play this T9s hand, you should 3-bet light pre-flop. If this villain hates to fold, I'd just fold this hand pre-flop. If you feel you can outplay him on certain boards, then maybe a call is ok this deep. As played, I guess I don't mind your call on the flop. When he overbets the turn I think you have to raise or fold.
4) I've posted my thoughts on the 87s hand in HA.

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Thanks for the comments. The T9 hand, I called the turn because it seems like a really retarded way to play for value. It felt like it was always a bluff and that I was ahead. I was, and I called. The river just sucked, and I checked again.

Meh, his play sucked with the hand that he had, and yes, he sucked out... But it's easy to suck out on 2nd pair, lol... I don't feel like your hand was strong enough to attempt to go to showdown vs. such a turn bet. I don't mind a raise.

madtom1337 said:

Meh, his play sucked with the hand that he had, and yes, he sucked out... But it's easy to suck out on 2nd pair, lol... I don't feel like your hand was strong enough to attempt to go to showdown vs. such a turn bet. I don't mind a raise.

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Raise would have been better against his equity, I agree.

Just knocked out 2788 hands and just over 200 FTP's. Sadly thanks to not playing for 3 days I'm looking at 200 points per day now. On happier news a 6 buy-in day and a $20 bonus unlock means my bankrolls over $300 now, ship em. Been a really sweet day





Some run good:

Full Tilt Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 866515
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BTN: $3.39
SB: $21.05
BB: $10.00
UTG: $10.64
Hero (MP): $10.00
CO: $12.89

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with K ♠ A ♦
UTG raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, 4 folds, UTG raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $10, UTG calls $7.50

Flop: ($20.15) 2 ♣ 4 ♦ 5 ♦

Turn: ($20.15) 9 ♣

River: ($20.15) 3 ♥

Final Pot: $20.15
UTG shows A ♣ A ♥
Hero shows K ♠ A ♦
UTG wins $9.41
Hero wins $9.40
(Rake: $1.34)


And some run bad:

Full Tilt Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 866514
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BTN: $9.76
SB: $12.16
BB: $13.47
UTG: $15.14
Hero (CO): $23.56

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with 7 ♠ 6 ♠
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) Q ♦ 6 ♦ 6 ♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.05) 2 ♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB raises to $3.70, Hero raises to $22.56, BB calls $8.77 all in

River: ($26.99) A ♣ (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $26.99
BB shows Q ♠ Q ♥
Hero shows 7 ♠ 6 ♠
BB wins $25.20
(Rake: $1.79)


And some lulz with the "regs":

Full Tilt Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 866511
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UTG: $16.40
MP: $6.03
CO: $7.85
BTN: $10.00
Hero (SB): $25.56
BB: $10.18

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 4 ♥ A ♥
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BB raises to $1.20, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $1.80

Flop: ($6.00) 7 ♥ 9 ♦ K ♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $22.56, BB calls $7.18 all in

Turn: ($20.36) 2 ♦ (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($20.36) 7 ♣ (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $20.36
Hero shows 4 ♥ A ♥
BB shows T ♣ 8 ♣
Hero wins $19.01
(Rake: $1.35)


Yay me

How you getting on Chippy?

PS - not to dereail but who do you support? (football)

Manchester Utd



Not very well tbh. You can see where I moved up and took a shot at 25nl, literally a straight up line. Unfortunately the downswing came the very next day resulting in the mountain. Moving back down to 10nl has gone a bit rough too but I'm still rolled and confident I'll get back to winning soon. Starting today hopefully . Will put in a session today and post details before I go out.

LuckyChippy said:

Manchester Utd



Not very well tbh. You can see where I moved up and took a shot at 25nl, literally a straight up line. Unfortunately the downswing came the very next day resulting in the mountain. Moving back down to 10nl has gone a bit rough too but I'm still rolled and confident I'll get back to winning soon. Starting today hopefully . Will put in a session today and post details before I go out.

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Cool! Me too - was hoping to go to the Fulham match tomorrow but can't make it unfortunately.

How many FTP points have you got now?

Aww I'm struggling, I need around 240 points a day from now until the 25th of sept. Need to put the grind in, but there are always distractions lol.

Stay focused mate - book some long sessions in. Free money to be had.

A -4 buy-in day, followed by the need to withdraw most of my bankroll for life stuff means I have a bankroll in between 2 and 5nl. This challenge is over. I'll have to start grinding again when I feel any sort of motivation but with lots of stuff happening over the next month or so it doesn't seem likely. This thing was definitely a long shot anyways. Thanks for following.

shame, I was hoping you'd succeed

Ouch.