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Would you RR with pocket tens, 2nd hand in after the cut off raises 5x BB?

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Welcome to CC!

Please take my answer with a grain of salt, I'm also a beginner.

I wouldn't RR in this case. It would depend on my position. If I was the second to last or the last to act I may RR but most times I'll just call and hope for a set or a low flop. Even pocket jack's are scary to RR with in any position imho.

Would a seasoned player please post some advice.....I'm interested in your answers.

What's your position? Button, or one of the blinds? Or did you limp in the middle somewhere?

OzExorcist said:

What's your position? Button, or one of the blinds? Or did you limp in the middle somewhere?

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Also, how many people are left? What do you think your table image is? what is the table image of the guy who raised you?

i was on the button so they were just before me to act, there were 4 limpers, it was only 2 hands in so there were no reads,

I spoke to my friend an he said he wouldnt RR with anything in the early stages other than AA, obv IMO id stretch that to KK, QQ as the play at $5 SnG is still quite fishy

Thanks for your input

Hey been reading this website for two weeks but my firsts posts have been in the last 15 minutes lol.

I usually wait to push 10/10 till later on. Early, people wont call UNLESS they have higher pockets usually (at least at the few SnG-man tables I been at) plus the blinds start so low.

Could be totally wrong but I play it slow to start off unless its a turbo :/

Call - just play for set value this early on I think, as if a ten flops (unless the flop is TJQ) then a lot of the time you'll double up through him

scragbag said:

i was on the button so they were just before me to act, there were 4 limpers, it was only 2 hands in so there were no reads,

I spoke to my friend an he said he wouldnt RR with anything in the early stages other than AA, obv IMO id stretch that to KK, QQ as the play at $5 SnG is still quite fishy

Thanks for your input

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Now we've got something to go on.

With that many players already involved in the hand, I don't think I'd re-raise. I don't think I'd even call a raise that big. With four or five other players in the hand, you're going to be feeling pretty uncomfortable if an ace or any paint card flops, and you don't know how many (if any) of the limpers a re-raise will eliminate.

I'd likely just dump it and leave them to it.

To extend Oz's point, with that many limpers, if you call 5BB, this will trigger a call-fest since every consecutive player gets better and better odds. On the flop you will face a huge pot, likely one or more overcards and almost certainly someone will have paired with the overcard.

The only justification to call is to see whether you can hit a set. You have the odds to call for set value, but must release your hand if you don't hit it.

And definitely not worth it to push that early.

Cheetah said:

The only justification to call is to see whether you can hit a set. You have the odds to call for set value, but must release your hand if you don't hit it.

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Exactly.

The problem, for me at any rate, is that if I was holding 66 and didn't hit a set, I wouldn't have too hard a time dumping it. But TT just makes for difficult decisions. What if you don't flop a set, but you do make a straight draw? Difficult decisions aplenty.

10 10 is still a subpar hand when it can easily be trumped on the flop. If you are the only one willing to raise the pot higher your odds buy raising at a tight table to limit the amount of players going into the flop. Just know when someone calls your bet the more then likely have a ace hand especially online as people think Ace rag hands are golden (Fish). If you pfr 5 xx bb leading out continuation bet one more round and see if you can get the remaining people to fold em. If they call you are bet as they have atleast the ace or higher paint card that flopped. The hardest thing in poker to learn is how to lay down awsome hands after the flop proves you beat. It took my game years to laydown kk and qq when the board pops up an ace. You think in your mind this crap cant be happening to me and almost bet out of madness of that ace popping up. Live and learn through losing in the game of poker as it takes many beats sometimes for you to realize when you are beat in later games in the same situations. I never push all in and risk my stack unless I have kk or AA while sitting on a nice stack. If Im short stacked I will push with jj qq or Ak almost every time when there is only 2 other callers as most of the time 1 is on a draw and not willing to risk that much and the other usually has a pretty strong hand but it forces him to think hard to make that big of a call. Good luck at the tables though and welcome to CC as there are plenty of people here who are willing to help you along the way.

scragbag said:

i was on the button so they were just before me to act, there were 4 limpers, it was only 2 hands in so there were no reads,

I spoke to my friend an he said he wouldnt RR with anything in the early stages other than AA, obv IMO id stretch that to KK, QQ as the play at $5 SnG is still quite fishy

Thanks for your input

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Remember the fishies get lucky too and they are sometimes the hardest people to place on a certain hand because there betting is usually so erratic. Good luck at the tables...

OzExorcist said:

Exactly.

The problem, for me at any rate, is that if I was holding 66 and didn't hit a set, I wouldn't have too hard a time dumping it. But TT just makes for difficult decisions. What if you don't flop a set, but you do make a straight draw? Difficult decisions aplenty.

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And to add to the difficulties, even if you hit a set, that T that makes you a set is likely to make a str8 draw for someone. Say the flop is 5TQ. Anyone with a 9J or JK gets an open str8 draw. Many chase gutshots as well.

I don't like sets that high for that reason (and because of experience ). It is too easy to get outdrawn with so many players holding cards in this range.

Wicked input, i really appreciate all your feedback.
Everyone elses feedback is very welcomed ^^