Originally Posted by E-Dub
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this issue. Let me reiterate though that I think it's rude only in a heads-up situation. I really don't have a problem with it in a multi-way pot.
My point was that online it's unnecessary when you are heads-up because you can see your opponent's total amount of chips right in front of you. You know immediately that you have them covered. It's a much different scenario than in a live game, where it can be much harder to tell if you have someone covered and therefore you ask for a count. And I have never, ever, seen a player in a legitimate live game ask for a count, get it, and then bet his opponent's exact stack size. It's always "I put you all in" or just "I'm all in." Maybe I'm just too old-school.
I will say that I agree with you that it's up to me to not let it affect my mindset or play. Fortunately for me, it dosen't.
You're totally right about live play. It would be completely rude in a live game to ask for a count and then bet that exact amount. You're also right that in online play, it's unnecessary. You conclude that unnecessary equals rudeness. In my opinion, because either going all-in or betting your opponent's exact stack doesn't slow the game down
, this is just a possible psychological play. I use both means of betting with both strong and weak hands, and mix up my play. If it affects my opponent's play, then that's one more advantage I get over him.
I'm totally cool with disagreeing about it. In fact, I appreciate your civil response. It's much nicer than the usual internet vitriol you can get when someone disagrees with you.