sitting at the button.AQof 4bet facing 5bet all in

vilians stats was 19/19fron 80 hands palying. did my 4bet was right at that point?or i had to call his 3bet?

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

SB ($2)
BB ($2.95)
UTG ($2.08)
MP ($0.94)
Hero (Button) ($1.83)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q , A
2 folds, Hero bets $0.06, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.19, Hero raises to $0.42, BB raises to $2.95 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $0.85 | Rake: $0

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First question is this, did you 3bet for value or as a bluff?

He means did you 4 bet* for value or as a bluff. I would either call or fold, 4 betting just folds out all better hands and you have position so just call.

I would have just flatted the 3 bet.

He obviously has a big hand. A-Q is not one of my favorites.

if he obv has a big hand why are we flatting AQ?

we're IP but against a range that crushes us according to you lot.

its nitty but I prob fold until villain is shown to 3bet light vs LP opens.

OMGITSOVER9K said:

if he obv has a big hand why are we flatting AQ?

we're IP but against a range that crushes us according to you lot.

its nitty but I prob fold until villain is shown to 3bet light vs LP opens.

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I would still flat to see a flop IP.

He may have something like 10-10.

But if we just flat him, we do not give him the opportunity to 5 bet.

And the "he has a big hand" was results biased, because he 4 bet hero out of the BB.

Not knowing, and in real time, I am flatting 3 bet here to see a flop.

Just my opinion.

OMGITSOVER9K said:

if he obv has a big hand why are we flatting AQ?

we're IP but against a range that crushes us according to you lot.

its nitty but I prob fold until villain is shown to 3bet light vs LP opens.

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agree with 9k unless you know you can outplay him postflop. What do you do if you call and then miss the flop?

Calling the 3bet then folding the flop is a HUGE leak imo.

Yeah I meant 4bet, so, were you 4betting for value or as a bluff?

pocketehs said:

agree with 9k unless you know you can outplay him postflop. What do you do if you call and then miss the flop?

Calling the 3bet then folding the flop is a HUGE leak imo.

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I never said I couldn't outplay him postflop. I am pretty confident of my postflop play. That's why I would flat call here.

Edit: It's just what I would do. I would be comfortable seeing how villain plays postflop, and perhaps floating if I think I can steal it on the turn or river.

I mean, personally if I knew more about villain, turning AQ into a bluff isn't the end of the world right? Or am I the only one here who 4bet bluffs? No, I didn't think so.

Like, I fold a lot too vs some ranges obv.

Calling is possible against some ranges too.

I just dislike 4b folding AQo, terrible at math but I swear we need like 33% or something to be B/E when we 4bet?

GTO aside, it can be useful as a bluff cos o the blockers.

do it with like AJ/A9 then.. obv Caff you know what you're doing but 4b folding AQ isn't really good for anyone blockers aside.

unless you give him a tight enough 5b range that 4b calling AQ isn't BE anymore

I'm specifically talking about instead of folding it.

flat > 4bet then.

don't think he folds better pre ever bar TT if he even 3bets that + we're IP + we keep his range wider + we have a skill adv?

Yeah tbh I probably flat too more often than not, esp if vilain is your standard 3bet happy face up reg. So in some cases my hole cards don't even matter lol

I'd flat AQs and plan to get fancy on a lot of flops. I don't hate 4-bet/f here.

why? with AQ off ?? no thats not correct mate ....

Maaayyyytttt, what?! AQ off??? Come on.... !!!!!

UhhWee said:

why? with AQ off ?? no thats not correct mate ....

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You're opinion.

OMGITSOVER9K said:

flat > 4bet then.

don't think he folds better pre ever bar TT if he even 3bets that + we're IP + we keep his range wider + we have a skill adv?

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what IP means?

Cafeman31 said:

First question is this, did you 3bet for value or as a bluff?

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clearly for value.

peza8 said:

what IP means?

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In position. Last to act after flop.