Should I ever fold QQ/KK preflop in a 6 Max cash game?

Hi everyone, I play NLHE 6 Max cash games on pokerstars and was just wondering if there is ever a situation to fold QQ/KK preflop?
Say I am holding QQ/KK and raise or re-raise preflop and I get re-raised. As a general rule should I fold in this spot or should I keep re-raising until me or opponent is all in? The stakes I play are $0.02/$0.05. Do stack sizes matter and if so how many BB's deep should I be playing more carefully looking at opponents stack sizes as well? Does this change as the stakes increase? Say if I were to play $0.05/$0.10 would this change anything? I am curious about this because of the odd time I run into AA?

6 handed - never unless u have super powers and can see through cards or tell the future

Hi. KK probably never. QQ the only scenario I could think of would be if two extremely nitty players were all-in in front of you. Even than you've have to be really confident in the tightness of nits' shoving ranges.

With 30 or less big blinds in a ring game you can just re raise or re re raise shove those 2 big pairs almost every chance .With 40 to 100 bigs you have to play much more carefully . At higher stakes, where the stacks are often much deeper , and the opponents sharper, you will have to be able to muck qq against solid regulars . I cant do it , but kk should be released on rare occasions as well .

By never fold does that mean if I have a $20+ stack in front of me is it still profitable to call an all in with these? It seems a bit risky but this has only happened to me a couple times where I have lost around $10 or more to AA/KK. The other times I have won and it works the other way around too when I have AA/KK and they have QQ/KK. Do I have more of a chance to hit a set than to be against higher pair? I know I mentioned above that the stakes I play right now are only $5 buy ins, but for the future if I ever make it to $100-$200 buy ins would this change as the stakes go higher?

skaterick said:

With 30 or less big blinds in a ring game you can just re raise or re re raise shove those 2 big pairs almost every chance .With 40 to 100 bigs you have to play much more carefully . At higher stakes, where the stacks are often much deeper , and the opponents sharper, you will have to be able to muck qq against solid regulars . I cant do it , but kk should be released on rare occasions as well .

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Sorry, I didn't see this post until I posted my last one. Any tips on how to play more carefully?

Most regs are very tight so facing 4bet usually means KK+. Should you fold? Well, there is no one clear answer, sometimes you should fold especially QQ. KK is harder because it’s the second best hand and sometimes even the tightest of the tightest will lose his marbles and gets it in with 99 and AK is partly in his range and KK is dominating vs AK unlike QQ.

I have run some analyses with cardrunners ev and it always suggest the same vs typical reg 6max player on pokertars, 3bet like crazy and fold when seeing raises. But I don’t know how to use the program really so the answer is not valid.

Most of the time getting it in with QQ and KK is the right thing to do though, because usually when you are facing super action you are actually playing against wild players. It’s only when you have stats to show you should think twice your question comes relevant. One important thing to notice, I do my choice according to villains stats, so if your stats are nit like, you see me giving you big action with nit range and tilt/**** you range.

i wouldnt fold qq pre flop however im not gooder at cash games

I wouldnt never fold QQ/KK preflop, but everything depends, I like to see the board to decide this

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Never say never lol. If you hold KK and there's a guy ridiculously nitty that 3bet just 1% over a 2000+ hand sample, it's pretty obvious that he's holding AA. That's a very rare scenario though.

never folding it, cause this starting hand strong enough, 3 bet and prepare to raise all in.

thomasguy3419 said:

Hi everyone, I play NLHE 6 Max cash games on PokerStars and was just wondering if there is ever a situation to fold QQ/KK preflop?
Say I am holding QQ/KK and raise or re-raise preflop and I get re-raised. As a general rule should I fold in this spot or should I keep re-raising until me or opponent is all in? The stakes I play are $0.02/$0.05. Do stack sizes matter and if so how many BB's deep should I be playing more carefully looking at opponents stack sizes as well? Does this change as the stakes increase? Say if I were to play $0.05/$0.10 would this change anything? I am curious about this because of the odd time I run into AA?

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I think it depends on the villain reading his.If he knows that you call or re-raise in several hands he will surely have paid your re-raise and even shove your re-raise with even A and qlq thing.que you would chanse to win!

Hello,
I would like to say is very hard to fold such of hand , but is depends of situation.
But I suggest to you to never fold such of hand , because this will be a mistake , but if you feel this situation you can make a risk , and to fold. Example : UTG raise 3BB , and them someone making 4 BB , and another person going all in , and you're on the BB , and your hand is QQ what you will do? you can fold , and you can call , but a lot of times they will show you AA or KK.
Thanks.

It is quite a strong hand on the flop, but vulnerable enough on the flop. If the raiser is only one, then you should re raise the Size of your raise must exceed a raise of an opponent 3 times. But be very careful if before the action comes to you was a raise and re rais. For a tight table, this may mean strong arm

If I were to assume I had the best hand preflop and willing to go all in and call it a cooler regardless of action before me would there be certain effective stack sizes to help me make a decision? For example, say I am 200-500 big blinds deep with QQ/KK and opponent is also 200-500 big blinds deep and they re-raise me or push all in. Would this have anything to do with making a decision to go all in or not? Am I still playing QQ/KK 200-500 big blinds deep? Are players loose enough to go all in with 1010/JJ 200-500 big blinds deep or should I just be paying more attention to betting action preflop? Would it be a good idea to cash out and re-buy when reaching these big of stacks so that I can play QQ/KK and not have to worry about losing too much?

Many good poker books discuss short stack play . It definitely is safer to shove 99, 1010 , jj and ,qq when you have less than 20 big blinds .Online its easy to hop to another table if you double or triple up .

Never,each time you must figth with that cards and try to won the hand.
That is too good cards to fold,so answer is no.

i would never fold QQ/ KK in cash preflop , is a huge mistake

Never.

thomasguy3419 said:

Hi everyone, I play NLHE 6 Max cash games on PokerStars and was just wondering if there is ever a situation to fold QQ/KK preflop?

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Certainly! Mr Ineverjamwithlessthanaces shoves. Drop those kings like they were on fire! You're never good here.

Otherwise, what do you have? (K,K) or (Q,Q)? It makes a big difference. What do you know about this opponent? Have you seen him jam with jacks, tens, (A,K) (A,Q-suited)? What does he think of your play, your table image? Does he see you as a nit/TAG/LAG? That also figures into what he'll risk his stack.

The stakes I play are $0.02/$0.05. Do stack sizes matter and if so how many BB's deep should I be playing more carefully looking at opponents stack sizes as well?

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Stack size does matter very much. If you're short (you do reload when short don't you?) or are against a shortie, then what are you waiting for? If you're short, and get one of the three top pairs in the pocket, it's double up or get up time. If he's the shortie, then break him, free his seat for a more well heeled fish. If you double him up, you haven't done much damage to your stack.

Does this change as the stakes increase? Say if I were to play $0.05/$0.10 would this change anything? I am curious about this because of the odd time I run into AA?

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Makes no difference: 5NL plays just like 10NL and even higher. There are more fish in those games than at Sea World. It doesn't begin to change until you're well beyond the Micros.

I'm Never Folding QQ

thomasguy3419 said:

Hi everyone, I play NLHE 6 Max cash games on PokerStars and was just wondering if there is ever a situation to fold QQ/KK preflop?
Say I am holding QQ/KK and raise or re-raise preflop and I get re-raised. As a general rule should I fold in this spot or should I keep re-raising until me or opponent is all in? The stakes I play are $0.02/$0.05. Do stack sizes matter and if so how many BB's deep should I be playing more carefully looking at opponents stack sizes as well? Does this change as the stakes increase? Say if I were to play $0.05/$0.10 would this change anything? I am curious about this because of the odd time I run into AA?

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A situation came up in a 1-2 live cash game where I was dealt QQ. I raised. The guy behind me went all in for around $130. It got folded around to the BB and he jammed with about $100. I had a little over $200 and I called. The first all in had KK. The BB had A7 off suit. A7 won the hand when his 7 made him a straight on the river.

Very hard to lay down the KK. QQ is a little easier but it's still pretty tough. You have to put him on basically 3 hands to lay them down (AA, KK, AK and with the 3rd you are flipping). In many cases aces or kings don't reraise all in but rather double your raise to keep you invested.

Once I found myself in a situation similar situation in a full ring table and I played QQ from middle positions and there was a raise and a 3bet two players quite tight so I quit and effectively one of them had KK

Tthe general rule is never, but there are exceptions as always. If you are 200bb deep maybe you can think of laying those hands down, especially QQ, but it also depends on the players, if they are nitty you may have to fold them. Personally, 100bb deep I'm not too happy pf going all in preflop with QQ against good players because you will rarely ahead. Not many players go all in with JJ or AQ so if you go all in preflop with QQ against good players, you will be behind most pf the times