Originally Posted by Weregoat
2. I'm made and don't want to get sucked out on. I have KTo (no clubs), flop comes QJ9, 2 clubs. I'm betting here. Yep, it's happening. And if I get raised I'm reraising. It's happening. (Actual hand from last night, two runners to the straight came, but no flush. Yippee!)
I've been harping on this in a few diff threads, and you come across as a sharp thinker, so I'll harp on it again - I'm betting in that spot not for protection against a suck out, but to charge a worse hand to see the turn. In other words, it's a value bet, a bet that I'm hoping a worse hand will call.
Sometimes, of course, the pot is so big that we overbet to shut out the draw - I'm talking about a medium to small pot.
I think from a tilt standpoint it's important to think of it that way. If a flush does hit, we made the correct play and Villain made an incorrect play, we were unlucky/he got lucky. If I think of it as protection (which is a side benefit of charging the worse hand too much to continue w a draw, not the primary reason to bet there), I start cursing the poker gods/the cat/anyone who comes near me when the flush completes.
As long as you bet enough so he pays too much to call w a fd, it makes no difference in the end from an equity standpoint or from a win/loss standpoint whether the bet was for protection or for value - but I find the distinction important for tilt control.