Short Buy-in Tables

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What's your opinion on short tables? What I mean is those that have half the usual maximum buyin? (Short means 50BB maximum buyin. Not 100BB)
I stopped playing 2NL 6max at 888 because they are short. ACR has a couple of short tables as well
I personally don't like them because it limits your plays in so many ways.
 
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6max means a lot more action than a full ring table. wider ranges, loose and aggressive play, more hands per hour -> distance, they say more fish there as the game is fast and fun. I think it's overall tendency to study and play more 6 max as it seems to be more popular.
And what do you mean by 6max limiting your play?
 
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6max means a lot more action than a full ring table. wider ranges, loose and aggressive play, more hands per hour -> distance, they say more fish there as the game is fast and fun. I think it's overall tendency to study and play more 6 max as it seems to be more popular.
And what do you mean by 6max limiting your play?

I'm not speaking about the difference between 6max and a full ring.

I'm talking about the tables that have short maximum buyins.

Ex - At 2NL the usual maximum buyin would be 100BB. $2
But at short tables, the maximum buyin is 50BB. $1.
 
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LOL now that you edited your OP I see, sorry wasn't quite clear. Well play a mss.
 
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Recently partypoker had 30BB buy-in ca$h game tables. They changed that to 50BB min buy-in, but as long as there were 30BB, I enjoyed the opportunity as much as I could.
It is far easier to shove 20-30 BB than 40-50 BB.
 
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What's your opinion on short tables? What I mean is those that have half the usual maximum buyin? (Short means 50BB maximum buyin. Not 100BB)
I stopped playing 2NL 6max at 888 because they are short. ACR has a couple of short tables as well
I personally don't like them because it limits your plays in so many ways.
Well short buy in tables need strategy adjustment. A deep stack game is really an implied odds game. People will see more flops and play a little looser. In a short stacked game, you cannot get a short stack off a pot. Most of the time they are pot - committed, and your continue bet gets an auto call.

So you need to adjust strategy, being slightly more speculative against deeper stacks, and understanding that the opening range of a short stacked player (who is short stacked by choice rather than financial contraints) is probably a lot less than that of a deep stacked one. Also pay attention to short stacked players, who speak after you, because its annoying to call a raise and then get reraised all-in by the shorty.
 
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What's your opinion on short tables? What I mean is those that have half the usual maximum buyin? (Short means 50BB maximum buyin. Not 100BB)
I stopped playing 2NL 6max at 888 because they are short. ACR has a couple of short tables as well
I personally don't like them because it limits your plays in so many ways.

I can't play 888 since I'm not in New Jersey. I don't like buy-in limits anyway: it's supposed to be no-limit right? If there's a buy-in limit, it should be equal to the biggest stack on the table or 100BB.

As for limiting buys to 50BB, sounds like a gimmick to me. It's still Poker, and you play accordingly, knowing that your SPR is going to be quite a bit smaller than normal. That means you're playing almost like it's fixed limit. Stay away from the speculative hands like mid suited connectors, (A,x-s) and small pockets. You'll be needing hands with staying power, and that means big cards most of the time. If you speculate, it needs to be from a late position, and for no more than one BB. Know even if you hit gin, you're not making very much.

You'll have to tighten up, especially out of the #1 and #2 holes. (Q,J) (K,T) (K,J) (A,T) pretty much go into the muck up front, especially if off-suit. The exception would be an unusually nitty table where you believe you have a reasonable chance to steal, even from the early positions, or the occasional up front open with junk/speculative hands to keep your more astute opponents guessing.
 
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