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read this article (sorry dont know where) but it mentioned players called set farmers....from what i understand they post up at cashgames wait for pocket pairs and try to flop sets....the article said these situations are profitable enough to use this strategy ....from what ive experience its true you make a boatload when this happens (sometimes)..... soooooo.... thoughts?....... will this work?
 
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wouldnt you want to get money in the pot anyways in case you did hit the set or ended up with top pair? ......... probability of hitting a set on flop with any pocket pair is around 11%.....hitting quads on the flop = App .25%.....prob. of hitting any pocket pair = app. 6%.............
therefore..... out of every 10,000 hands 600 will be pocket pairs, 67 or 68 will hit a set or fourofakind on the flop......
AA KK QQ JJ may win the pot without connecting with the flop .....1.8% chance of getting JJ or better preflop......thats around (180 pocket J's or better - 20 hands JJ or better that hit sets)..... 160 hands that could be played regardless of flop texture......
so......excusing the obvious discrepencies in my math.... if you only play pocket pairs you have around 220-230 hands per 10,000 that are playable..
10,000 hands per 6-max table = around 1670 big blinds/220 "winning" hands = .... you need to gain 7.6 times big blind on each "winning" hand to break even using this style of play...... and thats not including hands that you lose.
hmmmmmmm...... i cant say if that is realistic or not ....
 
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read this article (sorry dont know where) but it mentioned players called set farmers....from what i understand they post up at cashgames wait for pocket pairs and try to flop sets....the article said these situations are profitable enough to use this strategy ....from what ive experience its true you make a boatload when this happens (sometimes)..... soooooo.... thoughts?....... will this work?]
Works find some of the time for me anyways, when it dose'nt i sit out move to another table and try my luck there
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read this article (sorry dont know where) but it mentioned players called set farmers....from what i understand they post up at cashgames wait for pocket pairs and try to flop sets....the article said these situations are profitable enough to use this strategy ....from what ive experience its true you make a boatload when this happens (sometimes)..... soooooo.... thoughts?....... will this work?

I doubt anyone purely set-mines. Even these guys probably aren't folding AK and AQ.

I think you could turn a small profit at the lowest stakes doing this, 2NL and maybe 5NL, but not really higher limits. The trouble is you will be only be playing like 6% (or something) or hands and will be perceived as a total nit. This means that you wont get any action from observant players and players using a tracker when you hit your sets because it will be obvious what you are doing.
 
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sometimes you also get beat by a higher set. iono if its profitable just on that alone.
 
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If I can limp in cheaply with a pocket pair and try to flop a set I will do but against any kind of raise they get mucked.
In late position with no raise I will limp in but in early position needs to be 10's and upwards, hands that can stand on their own.
 
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If I can limp in cheaply with a pocket pair and try to flop a set I will do but against any kind of raise they get mucked.
In late position with no raise I will limp in but in early position needs to be 10's and upwards, hands that can stand on their own.

raise instead, don't open limp.
 
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yeah unless u were putting up a TON of tables while doing this, i can't see it being sustainable...
 
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I experimented with this strategy at 2nl and I don't advise it. I made 0.21BB/100 over a 20k hand period of 3 days.
 
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