rush poker fold

are these the types of flop folds you have to make to be succsesful in rush poker?


full tilt poker Game #19426168615: Table Zoom (6 max) - $0.02/$0.05 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:07:42 ET - 2010/03/20
Seat 1: DerekDamours ($6.50)
Seat 2: emmett_avr ($4.88)
Seat 3: sand372 ($1.43)
Seat 4: xHASHx ($6.37)
Seat 5: rj25123 ($7.31)
Seat 6: Dirty Donk ($5.08)
Dirty Donk posts the small blind of $0.02
DerekDamours posts the big blind of $0.05
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DerekDamours [Jc Tc]
emmett_avr folds
sand372 raises to $0.15
xHASHx folds
rj25123 calls $0.15
Dirty Donk folds
DerekDamours calls $0.10
*** FLOP *** [Ts 7s 4h]
DerekDamours checks
sand372 bets $0.35
rj25123 calls $0.35
DerekDamours folds

Why are you even calling the .10? It's rush poker, you don't have any reads on anyone. And you are not going to flop enough flushes or straights to make calling there oop profitable.

Not sure how they are playing at 5nl rush. But it's usually pretty safe to assume there is an over pair in someones hand. So being OOP with TP ok kicker is a fold pre flop. If you are going to call there. You should have lead out, sand372 could have been just making a standard C bet. rj25123 is probably on a draw or has A high or something. He just flatted the raise preflop, and he's flatting again, so he doesn't have a huge hand. Again, you are out of position with a small pot hand and the pot is getting rather large. You have no reads due to it being rush poker, calling here, there is a lot of scary cards to that can hit the turn, then you really don't have a clue where you are in the hand. So I think it's just a fold here.

If this was regular NLHE I would be calling there like you did, depending on the villains and my table. But in rush poker, that's a fold preflop.

Yea, I would have folded that preflop. It's really not worth it to get involved there OOP.

ya im new to the rush poker thing lol so i just gotta tighten up a lot more

I think you should be more agressive cause you were in a (6-max) table and you had a conected suited. Be agressive in 6-max , its good to raise the pot with medium hands. Make the pot big .

godoy said:

I think you should be more agressive cause you were in a (6-max) table and you had a conected suited. Be agressive in 6-max , its good to raise the pot with medium hands. Make the pot big .

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Not OOP. Only hands that are going to calling him is hands that are beating his range. OOP that is a terrible move.

godoy said:

I think you should be more agressive cause you were in a (6-max) table and you had a conected suited. Be agressive in 6-max , its good to raise the pot with medium hands. Make the pot big .

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Lolaments.

I'm guessing you don't understand how terrabad that statement was?

Fwiw, big hands want big pots. Small hands want small pots. A fundamental rule in poker. However, we can play our trash and weak hands aggressively, because we can fold out better hands and also because we know when we get a lot of action it's an easy fold. Medium hands need to be played carefully, control the pot, don't boat it. Try and get them to showdown.

i woulda played that...just because you dont have a read on your opponents isnt a bad thing, sure its not what you want but remember if you cant read them they cant read you, i woulda played that hand out till the end

rush poker is a whole different game and needs to be played different usually the sneaky hands like 34 suited are the ones to win in this game if you know how to play them, and these guys up top of me are the ones who are going to pay you off with thier to pairs two your sneaky two pair

playerk7 said:

i woulda played that...just because you dont have a read on your opponents isnt a bad thing, sure its not what you want but remember if you cant read them they cant read you, i woulda played that hand out till the end

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Terrible move out of position!!!

playerk7 said:

rush poker is a whole different game and needs to be played different usually the sneaky hands like 34 suited are the ones to win in this game if you know how to play them, and these guys up top of me are the ones who are going to pay you off with their to pairs two your sneaky two pair

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Yes implied odds are huge in Rush. However, when you play hands like 34 suited, you want to be in position and in a multiway pot. Playing hands like that JT out of position will lose you more money in the long run.

people play way too many hands in rush

baudib1 said:

people play way too many hands in rush

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Yea, bad players play too many hands.

It's best to play a little tighter than normal and wait for premium hands.

The thing is, if you are going to play a hand like JTs OOP, you cant fold to the first bet postflop, especially when you hold TPTK and a BD straight draw!

I dont think you are in great shape postflp, i mean if theer was a FD on and the pot suddenly got big, would you think you had the best hand?

So the reason we arent playing hands like this OOP is to avoid situations like this.

atlantafalcons0 said:

Yea, bad players play too many hands.

It's best to play a little tighter than normal and wait for premium hands.

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this really sums rush up, this is why it appears to be a more agressive game postflop. people are tightening up and therefore hitting the flop with a stronger range than they are used to. Therefore they not only bet more, but they will call more because KT on a T high board is the nuts to a guy who would usually play T4s.

This is why fold equity is low in these games, because people arent adgusting their range postflop. Preflop they tighten up, but postflop if they hit, they dont have a lower end of their range because they are using their 6-max or FR post flop ranges but are just folding tonnes preflop.

So this is why we have to avoid hands like this OOP. Because our most likely hand is TPGK and if we dont feel comfortable calling a bet with our most likely hand then we should not be playing it.

I'm not a plan of playing a speculative hand OOP after a preflop raise- but you were priced in and the .05/.10 make pretty loose calls, so no harm there. After the flop, I definitely would have tested the waters with a .25 bet- OOP it's the only way you can get a little info on your opponent.

bilgert said:

I'm not a plan of playing a speculative hand OOP after a preflop raise- but you were priced in and the .05/.10 make pretty loose calls, so no harm there. After the flop, I definitely would have tested the waters with a .25 bet- OOP it's the only way you can get a little info on your opponent.

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How are we priced in?

There is a middle position raise and a button call.

How can we be certain that the pot will be large if we hit our hand? Where is the show of strength?

We are over-calling OOP against a weak range with a hand we arent happy with if we hit TPGK with villians whom we have no reads on.

So why are we priced in?

my bad- i thought this was a .05/.10 game. he's not priced in at all.

godoy said:

I think you should be more aggressive cause you were in a (6-max) table and you had a connected suited. Be aggressive in 6-max , its good to raise the pot with medium hands. Make the pot big .

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Sometimes it's better to not give advice. The more experienced players usually give better advice and back it up with reasoning that is sound.

better assume your opponents are tight player than loose,so that you would tighten your range of hands,especially in rush poker

rush is a different monster ..its a fold fest....lol yesterday i got into such a folding rhythm...i folded queens like three times and went back and checked and found out i wouldve lost the majority of those hands anyway...i even folded kings yesterday......i sually wait to play pairs or suited aces ace jack n up in good pos.......i ll fold just about anything in bad pos

Stu_Ungar said:

We are over-calling OOP against a weak range with a hand we arent happy with if we hit TPGK with villians whom we have no reads on.

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My thoughts exactly - you've called a raised, you've hit, and now you're folding? What were you hoping to hit; a straight, a flush, two pair? If they are the only hands you'll play, you won't be able to play enough hands to maintain a profit.