running into tripps

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hello,first of all thank you all for all the interesting reading
I have a general question, i am a fairly tight player agressive when i think i have the best hand.how do you avoid losing allot of chips when you run into someone with a pocket pair trippin up this is one of my biggest weaknesses other than my all around game lol or is it one of those things you just have too accept and move on. i know situations are gonna dictate your answers but im looking in general . by the way i play mostly no limit mtt's
 
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Sometimes its hard, but sometimes you can suspect it.

examples: I had QQ and raised 5X bb preflop and got a caller.

Flop comes J98 with 2 clubs. I pot it he calls. Now on turn, i pot it again he goes all-in and its only double my bet so i have 2 call. he has trip 8s. reason i pot turn is because theres so many draws out there, he could be calling with anything. Ak clubs, AT, TT, AJ... I suspected set but i think i bet like that everytime because of the wide variety of hands that could be involved.

Other example:

Say you have AA and reraise preflop and get a caller. flop comes J84 or something. You pot flop TAG calls. Turn comes like a 2, you bet big again and he triples your bet, or min raises. That for example has trips written all over it.

In that case i consider slowing down or folding.
 
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I observe how players at the tables play their small pocket pairs. What kind of raises do they call with it ? Do they limp in with pocket pairs ? How does this person play a small to medium pocket pair UTG ? By being observant you can often put an opponent on a hand before the flop. Take notes on these kinds of plays. When you run into a situation having a big pair, you can make a better decision wether to hold'em or to fold'em.
 
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Running into trips is one of the worst things, you often can't defend against it because they are a silent killer. Usually the more aggressive you are as play style the more you end up surrendering to trips if at the same time you happen to flop a good hand. I can tell you that twice it has happened to me to flop 2 pair while opponenert flops trips, another time I flopped trips and opponent flopped a better set! I obviously ended doubling him up in all those hands.

There are times when you can suspect trips, but this extremely rarely happens after the flop. As has been said many times holdem is a game of incomplete information, and any time you attempt to put your opponent on a specific hand you are almost certainly making a mistake. What is correct to do is put him on a range of hands, and at every move he makes you add info to try to shrink this range.

What I'm trying to get to here is that while you always want to stay alert against sets, if you find yourself too often putting your opponent on trips there is something wrong with the way you try to read hands. Trips are very hard to come by, and putting your opponent on 1 is very difficult. I can't tell you the exact percentage of times someone flops trips because I don't know it, but I do know it is very low. Just think when you are dealt a PP you will flop trips less than 12% of times.

Now, as to your question "how do you avoid losing alot of chips when you run into trips?", I wish I knew the answer to that. I think it's very hard to do, probably impossible against some opponents, when you hit strongly with the board like making 2 pairs. Other times, which I'm sure has happened, you end up folding to trips without even knowing your opponent has them, since many times by the way the betting goes and knowing what type of player he is you understand you're beat even if you have top pair with top kicker. This, I think, is the way to go; understanding when you're beat, without necessarily putting him on trips.
 
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Trips with PP are pretty rare (I believe you'll only have PP 1/16 of the time and if you only flop a set 10% of the time). But often you'll have a paired board (Q99) and some people like to check the flop if they have something like J-9 because these trips can be beat by QQ or because they want to slowplay it. In these cases, it is very difficult to detect, unless you've happened to put the opponent on a hand that contained a kicker in the 9 range.

My advice would be to observe how the opponent plays pocker pairs PF and how he bets them PF if he doesn't hit his set.
 
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thanks for the advice just got taken out of tourney aa vs 44 he cought a 4 lol didnt even see it coming but o well there is always the next one
 
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I rather run into trips than trip in the runs.

My biggest loss ever live cash game was $150 when I had K10 on flop of:
K 10 5

All the money went in when I bet, he raised and I moved in then he called with 55.
 
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