Running Hot on 1/2 Live anyone getting these results?

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½ NL finances log
2/6= +200, 8 hours win
2/7= -160, 8 hours lose
2/8= +385, 8 hours win
2/9= +385, 12 hours win
2/10= -65, 12 hours loss
2/11= +480, 10 hours win
2/12= -10, 10 hours loss
2/13= +350, 12 hours win
2/14= -110, 12 hours loss
2/16= +426, 10 hours win
2/17= +380, 9 hours win


I was breaking even for months before this hot streak. I did a lot of studying and implementing new techniques and strategy really changed my game up. I bluff so much now.
 
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Give me that graph Aaron, Give me that graph! :)
 
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Close, here's my 1/2 results for Feb.
2/2= $700 7:24 Win
2/3= -$130 10:45 Loss
2/4= $575 2:46 Win
2/6= -$367 2:35 Loss
2/8= $410 1:50 Win
2/9= $154 0:22 Win
2/18= $416 2:00 Win

$1753
 
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i lost 40,000 so far this month so you guys win
 
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Nope, not me.

I agree with your philosophy on bluffing though. I just haven't perfected it yet.
 
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Wow. Amazing. Glad there's sum1 else out there winning on 1/2 makes me believe 1/2 is beatable long term.
 
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I finished out the day yesterday up $1100 at 1/2 but I know I'm just on a heater. My first year of live play, right after black friday i was up $6000, mostly at 1/2 and then spent the next several years on a slow downward spiral until I was about break even. I'm up now but all together I dont think I've made more than a few dollars an hour. I record my sessions on PokerDominator so I'm not just guessing. GL
 
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Not much of a cash game player. Could you guys recommend anything out there for cash game play???
 
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I`m new on here but have been playing poker on and off over the past few years.

A legal poker room opened a few months ago in my hometown (in TX) so I`ve been playing a lot more the past 2 months. They only have a 1/2 game going but it`s a good game with a mix of average to good players and some locals/retirees who just like to gamble.


That being said, it is a very loose game. Typical raises are 8-15x BB pre-flop with a wide range and you will typically get 2-5 callers when the table is full.


I have a full-time job that pays well and work is slow this time of year so I am trying to take advantage of my free time in the evenings.


Here are my results for February (up $322 in January over 8 sessions):


2/9 - ($33) (2 hrs - ($16)/hr)
2/11 - $888 (6.5 hours - $136/hr)
2/15 - ($290) (3.5 hours - ($95)/hr)
2/16 - $612 (2.5 hr - $244/hr)
2/18 - ($90) (2.5 hr - ($36)/hr)


Total: $1087 (17 hours played - $63.94/hr)


The numbers above include subtracting my $30/monthly fee and the $8/hr seat rental. I know this is not a big enough sample size to determine much, but it is a start.


I feel like I am playing good poker but I am only winning big or slightly losing. I believe part of the problem is I am not putting in long enough sessions.


Any advice? I believe part of my variance is due to how loose the game.


Don`t mean to thread highjack, just thought this was a good thread to jump in on.
 
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Sounds like you're already pretty zoned in. How are you keeping track of your sessions? I use an App called Poker bankroll Tracker and then i back it up online to PokerDominator because i like the filters better. Where do you live? I didn't know there were any poker rooms in Texas. Im there alot.
 
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I use excel/notes on my iphone typically.

I will definitely have to check out those Apps you mentioned.


I live in Waco but there are two great poker rooms in Austin called Texas Card House. Usually have 5-10 tables going every night with 1/2 or 2/5 games.
 
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That's good to know. My daughter lives in austin. My next project might be there.
 
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WOW NICE JJcard227 averaging 63$ an hour on a 1/2 is amazing. Not sure how long that will last but enjoy the heater! Personally, i think if a person is able to win 5 sessions in a row or even have a profitable month then i think that is usually skill outweighing luck.

Got a question what are the buy-ins out there? Where I play at in So-Cal all casinos have a regulation for 40 min - 100 max buy ins for the 1/2 game. I'm honestly hoping I can figure out a way to average 20 an hour on 1/2 long term.
 
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$20/hr at 1/2? Not to question your abilities but I dont think that's realistic. There are any number of threads where people brag about crushing 1/2 for $20-$40 an hour and then the posts just stop. I made about that for my first 400 hours, i was sure it was all skill, and then i couldn't by a win. I'm not saying that if i can't maintain that rate than nobody can but 1/2 is very hard to beat. The rake, tips and promotions are just too big a percentage of the pot and its very hard to beat a table full of fish. Yes, they make all kinds of mistakes but you're still outnumbered 9:1. You have to be willing to put your stack on the line and there are going to be long stretches where you dont make hands, but they do.
In the end, everyone comes crashing back to earth. I think $10hr is a pretty good goal. You should yeep this thread going though, and be honest about your winrate.
 
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at 1/2 it is possible if its a deeper game but no way your gonna make 20$ an hour if the max buy in is 100.

i know people who realistically beat the game for above 20 but the game conditions arent 50bb cap.
 
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at 1/2 it is possible if its a deeper game but no way your gonna make 20$ an hour if the max buy in is 100.

i know people who realistically beat the game for above 20 but the game conditions arent 50bb cap.

Really, in live 1/2? over how many hours and how do you know? Forgive me for being skeptical but I really don't see how that's sustainable. You might get there at the higher stakes with lower rakes and deeper stacks but IMO 1/2 is just way too expensive and swingy.
 
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WOW NICE JJcard227 averaging 63$ an hour on a 1/2 is amazing. Not sure how long that will last but enjoy the heater! Personally, i think if a person is able to win 5 sessions in a row or even have a profitable month then i think that is usually skill outweighing luck.

Got a question what are the buy-ins out there? Where I play at in So-Cal all casinos have a regulation for 40 min - 100 max buy ins for the 1/2 game. I'm honestly hoping I can figure out a way to average 20 an hour on 1/2 long term.



Buy-ins are typically $200-400. There will be a couple players who at the start of the game buy in $300 (myself included) and when the game has been going a while, a $400 buy-in isn`t unusual.


It is a very deep game some nights ($5-7K on the table) and even though my hourly seems high, I don`t feel like I`ve been on a heater. Not saying I haven`t played well, but there have been a couple nights recently where 2-4 players will cash out $1,500+. Winning 5 sessions in a row in this game will be tough due to the wide range of hands some of the gamblers play/there inability to fold when they should.


Last night I lost a $700 pot with AA due to a player calling $150 in bets on the flop and turn with pocket 99s. They of course caught a 9 on the river, but even with a K J 2 flop, he called a $50 3 bet from me (raised a $15 bet and they then folded). He wasn`t folding unless he missed on the river (which he was chasing with only 2 outs).


Just wanted to give some context as to why I think winning 5 sessions in a row would be tough. But the wins should be larger if I play well.
 
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Really, in live 1/2? over how many hours and how do you know? Forgive me for being skeptical but I really don't see how that's sustainable. You might get there at the higher stakes with lower rakes and deeper stacks but IMO 1/2 is just way too expensive and swingy.
Seems to be about 1,000 hours ( just confirmed and its like £25/hr) granted these games the buy in is from 80 to 400 and there are often straddles, so its probably a bit bigger than the typical american 1/2 game.

This is also a person who beats 2/5 holdem regularly so is obv better than just a typical 1/2 reg
 
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Seems to be about 1,000 hours ( just confirmed and its like £25/hr) granted these games the buy in is from 80 to 400 and there are often straddles, so its probably a bit bigger than the typical american 1/2 game.

This is also a person who beats 2/5 holdem regularly so is obv better than just a typical 1/2 reg
Well, 1000 hours is a pretty decent sample and as you said, the deeper stacks don't hurt, so okay.
 
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Seems to be about 1,000 hours ( just confirmed and its like £25/hr) granted these games the buy in is from 80 to 400 and there are often straddles, so its probably a bit bigger than the typical american 1/2 game.

This is also a person who beats 2/5 holdem regularly so is obv better than just a typical 1/2 reg

How big a difference do you think $5 Mississippi straddles (on the button) and $5 live straddles have on hourly rates at 1/2 if 7 of 10 players straddle every time?
 
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How big a difference do you think $5 Mississippi straddles (on the button) and $5 live straddles have on hourly rates at 1/2 if 7 of 10 players straddle every time?
Well the table would still limited to the 100bb buy in so everyone would be short stacked. It would be a shove fest. It could be fun and if everone was just buying back in and it might be a good way to get some money on the table.
 
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Well the table would still limited to the 100bb buy in so everyone would be short stacked. It would be a shove fest. It could be fun and if everone was just buying back in and it might be a good way to get some money on the table.

That`s exactly what happens and why I have been picking my spots or isolating players that fold if they don`t hit top pair w/ top kicker.


I`ve also played enough with the same 5-6 players that are there everyday that I am beginning to know their ranges and their style of play. Who chases flushes/open-ended straights for 15x BB and etc.


If all the players at the table agree, they will allow you to buy-in or match the largest stack on the table. That`s when landing a monster hand pays off. I haven`t yet but it is just a matter of time with some of the looser players who like to gamble and will be 8 buy-ins deep.
 
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