Run it twice

I use Run It Twice option

  • yes

    Votes: 9 45.0%
  • no

    Votes: 11 55.0%

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LinkornU

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Hi everybody!
I'd like to hear you opinions on Run it twice option. Personally I beleive that this option makes poker cleaner since it helps you to avoid bad beats.
So what do you think?
 
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I've never played with run it twice option, but of course, due to odds, the chance of best hand wins is bigger. But I would choice the regular ones.
 
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I think is a good option and i use it from the begining.
 
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Both players must have selected the option for it to run. I always have mine ON but it rarely kicks in because other players do not select it.

Anyway I saved a couple of buyins using this option. It reduces variance in the short term. In the long term, on or off, things should be about the same.
 
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I've never used that option...but after reading your posts, i will turn on that option.

I lost milion times on Bad beats... Thanks :)
 
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You're welcome:)
But yeah, a few people turned on that option so you won't see it too often.
 
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I've never been a fan of 'run it twice'. There is no doubt that it reduces variance which may be a feature you want (beginner, low BR, starting at a new level .. maybe more reasons). But if you are a proven profitable player then this can only reduce your ROI (am I wrong?)

My concern with 'run it twice' is how it affects play at the table, can it disadvantage players who do not 'run it twice'?

At the start of a hand (on pokerstars) can you identify a Run It Twice player or is it only when you get to a heads-up showdown?

Would you then make a list of players that you know 'Run it Twice' and play hands against them with this in mind (play more drawing hands)?
 
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Interesting thoughts, enolan. I am not sure of the exact answers.

But yeah, I just prefer just running it once and being bankrolled to take the hit. I don't think giving opponents an extra card to chop is a more profitable idea long term.
 
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At the start of a hand (on pokerstars) can you identify a Run It Twice player or is it only when you get to a heads-up showdown?

Would you then make a list of players that you know 'Run it Twice' and play hands against them with this in mind (play more drawing hands)?

There is no way to know if a player has it ON before the allin situation occurs. However I do mark them as soon as I know they have it ON also.
 
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yeah run it twice is a great option on huge pots because there is way less chance of losing the whole pot but there is no need on smaller pots
 
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It truly depends for me... If the player is a good solid player.. I am about being nice... On the us sites they do not give that option.. In live I have ever only done it one time when I was playing 5-10 nl.... I had aces he had ak of hearts it was for 1200 dollar pot... we wound up splitting, only because the second run gave me half.. I would have lost if I decided to be greedy... You will not get the same response from evry player, but for me If i had more chances I would do it... In resposne to Enolan... I guess pokerstars is different that they give u the choice... I dont go into a hand to run it twice, but if it happens.. I take a look at the hand itself and the way it went down...
 
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I never run it twice! The math is too hard for me and I always try to work out the odds one way. Then again why should I give em a chance to get their money back? Gl to all CC members :D:D:D
 
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Never play on that option,but if *the fire cost game* i may try it )
 
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It's an interesting question. I play poker, but not much of a gambler. If the odds are against me, no way I'm running it again. And if I'm ahead, I want to lock up the first win and not take a chance on a another run. At that point it's more luck. You don't get a chance to read the situation of each street.
 
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Interesting thoughts, enolan. I am not sure of the exact answers.

But yeah, I just prefer just running it once and being bankrolled to take the hit. I don't think giving opponents an extra card to chop is a more profitable idea long term.

I agree w/ this ^^^

I've never used it online. Live home games we do it all the time though. In the long term aspect, I find it pointless to do.
 
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The advantage of running it twice is that it reduces variance (negative and positive) in the short term. In the long term, results should smooth out, and it should make no difference. Running it twice does not change your EV at all.

It can be beneficial if suck-outs put you on tilt. For example, you get it in with a set versus a player with a gut shot. Your opponent hits his 4 outter on the river and wins the pot. That suck-out might put some players on tilt for the rest of the session. If you run it twice, chances are the 2nd run won't complete your opponent's gut shot, and you'll chop the pot. Less tilt.

It can be annoying in spots where you get it in good, you win the first run, but your opponent hits his 4 outter on the second run, and you chop the pot. Notice this is exactly the same as the first example, except in the opposite order. Mathematically, each is exactly as likely to happen.

A second run only happens when both players get it in and have the option enabled. And of course, fish almost never have run it twice enabled, so usually it doesn't even matter.
 
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I use long time but gave me more grief than joy therefore decided to take that option and start enjoying haha
 
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for Omaha id say yes cos the variance is a lot higher but in NLHE I'd prefer not to use unless you are running like S*:eek:1T
 
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I have always been against it but since I perpetually run under EV I am reconsidering it lately.
 
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I run so bad I don't run it twice, i'd lose twice. Which would tilt me even more than running it once.
 
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